Treason It's a Crime (The Mueller Investigation Part 106)

Link to previous thread for reference:

Previous Thread Titles for Reference:

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation (10/27/17)

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation, Part Two (10/28/17)

The Four Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 3 (10/31/17)

A Man For All Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 4 (11/5/17)

It's Beginning to Look a lot like Treason! The Mueller Investigation Part 5 (12/4/17)

Treason Is The Reason For The Season! The Mueller Investigation Part 6 (12/16/17)

Treason to Believe (The Mueller Investigation Part 7) (12/26/17)

I Love You For Sentimental Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 8) (1/3/18)

Give Me One Treason To Stay Here... (The Mueller Investigation Part 9) (1/15/18)

Treasons of Love (The Mueller Investigation Part 10) (1/24/18)

For Treasons Which Are Well Known To Them (The Mueller Investigation Part 11) (1/30/18)

Come on and Treason Down, Treason Down the Road (The Mueller Investigation Part 12) (2/6/18)

13 Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 13) (2/18/18)

By Treason of Insanity (The Mueller Investigation Part 14) (2/23/18)

The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15) (2/28/18)

A Treason to Live; A Treason to Die (The Mueller Investigation Part 16)…(3/10/18)

Treasons of the Heart (The Mueller Investigation Part 17) (3/17/18)

A Stormy Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 18) (3/21/18)

Lovin', Touchin', Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 19) (3/26/18)

Everything Happens for a Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 20) (4/4/18)

For All the Right Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 21) (4/11/18)

Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22) (4/16/18)

Dangerous Tre'asons (The Mueller Investigation Part 23) (4/22/18)

Don't Stop (the) Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 24) (5/1/18)

Got This Treason in My Body (The Mueller Investigation Part 25) (5/7/18)

I'm Treason on a Jet Plane... (The Mueller Investigation Part 26) (5/14/18)

Treasonnaires' Disease (The Mueller Investigation Part 27) (5/21/18)

You've Lost That Lovin' Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 28) (6/2/18)

Multiple Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 29) (6/9/18)

For Undisclosed Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 30) (6/18/18)

The Apple Doesn't Fall Far from the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 31) (06/23/18)

Treason d'être (The Mueller Investigation Part 32) (06/30/18)

My Treasons Are Not My Own (The Mueller Investigation Part 33) (07/08/18)

The Treasons a Baby Cries (The Mueller Investigation Part 34) (07/13/19)

Get to Know Your Family Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 35) (07/15/18)

All You Got To Do is Hold Him And Kiss Him and Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 36) (07/17/18)

Fall or Spring? Which Would / Wouldn't Be Your Favorite Treason? (The Mueller Investigation Part 37) (07/18/18)

It's the Time of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 38) (07/21/18)

My Treasonal Summer Job Abroad (The Mueller Investigation Part 39) (07/25/18)

Yellow is the Color of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 40) (07/27/18)

The Treason for my Life's Trials and Tribulations (The Mueller Investigation Part 41) (07/31/18)

Hunting Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 42) (08/04/18)

It's Swimsuit Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 43) (08/07/18)

Treasonably Priced (The Mueller Investigation Part 44) (08/12/18)

Tre45onal Affective Disorder (The Mueller Investigation Part 45) (08/16/18)

A Plea for Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 46 (08/21/18)

Untreasonably Hot (The Mueller Investigation Part 47) (08/22/18)

There is a Treason... Turn, Turn, Turn (The Mueller Investigation Part 48) (08/24/18)

The Voice of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 49) (08/28/18)

The Golden Age of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 50) (09/03/18)

Treasons for Remaining Anonymous (The Mueller Investigation Part 51) (09/08/18)

Hurricane Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 52) (09/16/18)

All Natural Mushroom Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 53) (09/22/18)

Treasoning with an Alcoholic (The Mueller Investigation Part 54) (09/28/18)

Judicial Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 55) (10/06/18)

Treasons for Hidden Genius (The Mueller Investigation Part 56) (10/15/18)

Trick or Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 57) (10/25/18)

Several Treasons to Get Out and Vote in the Midterms (The Mueller Investigation Part 58) (11/5/18)

Heading Back to the Magical Keebler Elf Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 59) (11/11/18)

It's Turkey Picking Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 60) (November 18, 2018)

Stepping into the Holiday Treason! (The Mueller Investigation Part 61) (November 26, 2018)

Treason's Greetings! (The Mueller Investigation Part 62) (November 29, 2018)

Spirit of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 63) (December 3, 2018)

'Tis the Treason to be Jolly (The Mueller Investigation Part 64) (December 5, 2018)

Celebrate this Holiday Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 65) (December 8, 2018)

Treasons to Get out of Solitary (The Mueller Investigation Part 66) (December 10, 2018)

Numerous Treasons For Silence (The Mueller Investigation Part 67) December 12, 2018)

Treasons We Celebrate This Season (The Mueller Investigation Part 68) (December 15, 2018)

Trimming the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 69) (December 19, 2018)

O Christmas Treason, O Christmas Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 70) (December 22, 2018)

Treasons We'll Be Ringing in the New Year (The Mueller Investigation Part 71) (December 27, 2018)

Treasons I'm Coming For You (The Mueller Investigation Part 72) (January 3, 2019)

A Shutdown is Perfectly Treasonable (The Mueller Investigation Part 73) (January 6, 2019)

Treasons I'm Focused (The Mueller Investigation Part 74) (January 10, 2019)

Treasons We Need A Wall (The Mueller Investigation Part 75) (January 13, 2019)

Mid-Treason Replacement (The Mueller Investigation Part 76) (January 15, 2019)

A Treasonable Request (The Mueller Investigation Part 77) (January 19, 2019)

Treasons to Postpone (The Mueller Investigation Part 78) (January 23, 2019)

Swinging from the Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 79) (January 26, 2019)

Sweating Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 80) (January 30, 2019)

I'll Be Your Girl For All Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 81) (February 4, 2019)

House Cleaning Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 82) (February 9, 2019)

For Emergency Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 83) (February 15, 2019)

Treasons I Speak (The Mueller Investigation Part 84) (February 19, 2019)

Treasonable Preparations (The Mueller Investigation Part 85) (February 23, 2019)

Treasons for Redemption (The Mueller Investigation Part 86) (March 1, 2019)

Treasons to Watch (The Mueller Investigation Part 87) (March 7, 2019)

A Treasonable Amount of Time (The Mueller Investigation Part 88) (March 11, 2019)

Treasons I Have Veto Power (The Mueller Investigation Part 89) (March 18, 2019)

Treasons I've Submitted My Report (The Mueller Investigation Part 90) (March 22, 2019)

Treasons to Continue On (The Mueller Investigation Part 91) (March 24, 2019)

Treasons For a Barr Cover (The Mueller Investigation Part 92) (March 24, 2019)

Treasons to Protect Our Assets (The Mueller Investigation Part 93) (March 26, 2019)

Treasonable Interference (The Mueller Investigation Part 94) (March 31, 2019)

Tax Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 95) (April 6, 2019)

Treasons You May Leave (The Mueller Investigation Part 96) (April 11, 2019)

Treasonable Redactions (The Mueller Investigation Part 97) (April 18, 2019)

Treasons We Won't Abandon Him (The Mueller Investigation Part 98) (April 19, 2019)

Treasons to Subpoena (The Mueller Investigation Part 99) (April 24, 2019)

Treasons She was Right... About Everything (The Mueller Investigation Part 100) (April 30, 2019)

Treasonable Returns on Your Investment (The Mueller Investigation Part 101) (May 3, 2019)

When It's Treasonable to Assert Your Privilege (The Mueller Investigation Part 102) (May 9, 2019)

Treasons You May Have a Rat (The Mueller Investigation Part 103)(May 17, 2019)

Treasons to Like Subpoena Coladas (The Mueller Investigation Part 104) (May 22, 2019)

Treasons She Gets Under Your Skin (The Mueller Investigation Part 105) (May 28, 2019)

Treason It's a Crime (The Mueller Investigation Part 106) (May 31, 2019)

Tweet this, post it on facebook, e-mail it, and do everything you can to make sure people see it. McConnell ought to be removed from leadership at the very least.

Thanks OP. Do you think you will be making these threads in six months?

The Democrats need to focus on winning Senate seats in the upcoming election. I wish Stacey Abrams would consider running. And as much I love Pete, he should too.

Junior Mint said......

The other day McTurtle said he would be open to a position ON THE FUCKING SUPREME COURT!

Barr: adj., a person or an object that is very awkward or unusual in their current state or environment; a state of existence in which a person seems incapable of blending in conspicuously or acting in such a way so as to appear normal; existing in a perpetual state of being "lame"

[quote]Warren knows better then that. And if she doesn't she is more ignorant than I would have credited. She is playing to the gallery, not serious policy and legislation. 𝑁𝑜 𝐵𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑜𝑓 𝐴𝑡𝑡𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑑𝑒𝑟 𝑜𝑟 𝑒𝑥 𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑡 𝑓𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑜 𝐿𝑎𝑤 𝑠ℎ𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑏𝑒 𝑝𝑎𝑠𝑠𝑒𝑑.

Well, the states that just passed complete abortion bans are also not allowed to do that, because those laws are unconstitutional based on Roe vs Wade... in which the Supreme Court determined that states may not place limitations of abortion during the first trimester.

The fact that it’s unconstitutional didn’t stop those deplorable states one bit.

So if Elizabeth Warren wants to encourage Congress to pass a law of questionable constitutionality to get rid of Trump, she should go right ahead.

Ok, I have to know. The Andrew Miller testimony today - any word?

What about the redacted Flynn stuff the DC judge demanded be released to the public? Where are those tapes?

Flynn TRANSCRIPT OUT NOW watching on MSNBC

ok it's transcript of John Dowd talking to Flynn's attorney

If Mueller knew he couldn't indict a sitting president, I think he should have made that statement early in his investigation. It's not something he discovered as time progressed. He accepted the role of SC with the full understanding of what the DOJ policy was. Also, I think it would have been helpful for the country to understand EXACTLY what his scope was. The collusion scope was very narrow in that it was restricted to Russian GOVERNMENTAL agencies. Trump and family colluded with a whole lot of Russians but most of them were part of Putin's informal spy network and SHADOW government made up of oligarchs et al like Marina Butina. For two years everyone thought Mueller was looking at the totality of Trump's corruption when in fact he was looking at a very narrow scope. What happened to the investigation into the rest? Also, it didn't help that Manafort lied and covered up for Trump. There is still a whole lot out there that we don't know about. Was interesting last night that Rep. Mike Quigley - a member of the House Intelligence Committee flat out said on Rachel Maddow that he thought Trump was compromised by the Russians. That's a pretty blatant statement to make. He's seen a lot of top secret information.

R6, you sound concerned.

Junior

The Flynn voicemail is a message to Flynn's lawyer from Trump's personal/criminal attorney John Dowd, where he threatens Flynn for cooperating with Mueller. Dowd basically says let us know what you’ve told Mueller (or are planning to tell), or risk losing your chance for a pardon. It’s the same message quoted in the Mueller report.

So is that obstruction of justice, or are they going to argue it’s “not a threat” because typically criminals don’t get pardons anyway?

I want to know how they’re going to spin this so it’s fine.

CNN is reporting now that Trump is worried about impeachment.

I am glad so many of you are shutting down the anti-Nancy concern posts.

The MEDIA needs to put the pressure on McConnell and the GOP Senate about the election security. Nonstop. Relentless. It is the only way. And yes, we must win the Senate by at least 2 seats with a Dem VP.

Also, we aren't hearing enough from the "moderate" GOP Senators like Collins and Murkowski. Who knows what the fuck Romney is. He is Senate Goo. He is there but does nothing and conforms to whatever container he is in. It worries me the more "moderate" GOPers don't go Amash on this situation.

If we don't have them on our sides, and Amash is not a moderate, then the media must do a hatchet job on them because our democracy is at stake and the media would not be lying if they did a hatchet job on them.

If Barr is the new Roy Cohn, should he meet the same fate?

Pres Bone Spurs is not worried about impeachment. I believe he wants it. He needs new material for round 2 on the campaign trail and he is great a playing the victim.

Republican Senator, John Kennedy, R-LA, is complaining about Mitch McConnell refusing to take up numerous bills that were passed in the House. Senate Republicans have done, zero, zilch, nada; other than confirm right-wing judges.

Barr is more like the John Mitchell.

Roger Stone is the equivalent to Cohn.

[quote]Also, we aren't hearing enough from the "moderate" GOP Senators like Collins and Murkowski.

Collins votes straight Republican agenda every fucking time, despite all of her televised concern trolling.

Murkowski is a bit more unpredictable.

Kellyanne says "blah, blah, blah," about her own multiple ethics violations regarding the Hatch Act.

Well, there is some hope on the Susan Collins front.

[quote]In what is "the longest-running consistently-administered tracking survey in the Northeast," Collins dropped from a 58% approval a year ago, to 51% last fall, to 41% this spring. She also only gets a 46% approval rating among Republicans, and 31% from Democrats. In the words of the polling memo, "Approval of Senator Collins's job performance has declined dramatically since last fall, reaching a new low."

R27 Apparently though, Susan Collins has a huge stash of campaign funds. There were reports she and Miz Lindzey plan to campaign together. I don't know if that's still on.

Please let Lindsey Graham go to Maine to campaign on another "I love Kavanaugh" tour. Just so he stays away.

IDC how much goddam blood money these traitors have.

It's time to ignore that shit and concentrate on registering people to vote, getting them to the polls and beating the drum of treason, economic slow down and accountability.

God I hate Susan Collins. Mainers know fake when they see it. Just like her bearding marriage.

r28 That is just so they can borrow undergarments and pumps from each other. They reportedly have the same taste.

Trump has been "worried" about impeachment for some time. They are putting the word out since Russia and the Republican traitors would like nothing better than the Democrats to push hard on impeachment so they can use it as a political talking point, which in this topsy turvy world sounds crazy, but yes they can rile support for Trump and raise anti Democrat sentiment.

[quote]In the words of the polling memo, "Approval of Senator Collins's job performance has declined dramatically since last fall, reaching a new low."

Why does a blue state like Maine keep re-electing this hack??

[quote]They are putting the word out since Russia and the Republican traitors would like nothing better than the Democrats to push hard on impeachment so they can use it as a political talking point

Sounds like Nancy is playing it correctly then.

Here's the first part of one of Mueller's parsed sentences.

Barr’s letter... “[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

The Mueller report... (text omitted by Barr in bold) "The investigation also identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump campaign. Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

I love that the trumps are not invited to stay at Buckingham Palace because of work being done. lol. So much shade, that place is huge. they have plenty of space. I hope they have more shade planned during this visit. Prince Charles should get on Trump's ass about climate change.

I really want to see the Deutche Bank records and tax returns. They should be coming in the next 30 days.

So is there any chance Dowd coiled be disbarred for that phone message?

[quote]Susan Collins has a huge stash of campaign funds. There were reports she and Miz Lindzey plan to campaign together.

Please let there be a sex tape.

Reuters: House Intelligence chief warns spy agencies of Trump 'politicization'

From yesterday and don't know if it was posted.

Newsweek: Trump Issues Flurry of Falsehoods After Mueller Declined to Exonerate Him

CBS: William Barr on caring about his reputation: "Everyone dies"

This is a very bad week Trump. His trade war is turning south as China retaliates. His obstruction of justice through Barr is going down the toilet after Mueller's press conference. The call for impeachment is at a fever pitch. But we all know he has it coming for all his lying and dumb moves over the past 2-1/2 years. He is a self-destructive mess.

Maine's enthusiasm for Collins seems to have dried up. I wonder if she’s concerned?

[quote]Maine Sen. Susan Collins, one of the most vulnerable Republican senators in 2020, raised more than $1.1 million in itemized contributions during the first three months of the year. But less than 1 percent of that money came from her home state. Collins raised $9,200 from 17 itemized donations from Maine during the first three months of 2019. Those came from 15 Pine Tree State residents. Thirteen Mainers gave $200 or more this quarter, while two gave less than $200 this quarter but have given more than $200 to Collins in the aggregate.

Her concerns are very concerned.

I expect she's going to start moderating her positions once polling starts coming in.

DJT is stressed. With security and other staff watching, fresh pee pee girls may not be available to slip inside to render temporary relief.

Kellyanne & Sarah must feel the pressures. And, Rudy & Miz Lindz can't be seen frequently visiting in drag.

Reading that Bill Barr interview, I can only say he must be willfully ignorant. He is surrounded by incompetency and surely must be aware about how institutions are being "shredded." Jared Kushner running Middle East deals? Come on.

Also, a lot of people puff themselves up while riding high and declare they aren't afraid of dying without leaving a good legacy. Homeric ideal? Hey Billy, those Greeks were a lot wiser than you. You care.

I learned something about Bill Barr that I did not know. Bill Barr has NEVER tried a case in a court of law.

Trade wars, Dow sinks.

CNN’s Anderson Cooper sometimes does a piece at the end of his show named “The Ridiculist”. Last night he flamed Trump. Goofy and hysterical.

Nancy needs to get moving on an impeachment inquiry or else Trump will think he's gotten away with everything once again.

Barr---huge ego.

Mueller speaks, so Barr has to one-up him with an interview.

He really has a high opinion of himself. It will be a pleasure to see him fall.

Trump is doing this Trade War bullshit as punishment. Literally like “oh yeah investigate me and I’ll wreck the economy!” He’s fucking evil & nuts and knows he’ll get re-elected regardless by Russia.

R52 = Nancy Troll.

Oh for sure R55.

I keep thinking there is some big mystery about Bill Barr, that we need to recover. What if he's just actually a totally ideological Republican? Just believes that only the Rich matter. Republicans are the only party that can be trusted to support the Rich in every situation. Therefore, anything that keeps the Republicans in power is entirely righteous, moral, and true.

He's too dumb to realize that a shitty economy means no re-election.

Judging by R52, it must be take your kid to work day at the Russian troll farm.

A question no one's asking:

He doesn't know shit about shit. Everything is a complete mystery to him. The economy. The law. The Constitution. This is the dumbest fuck to ever wander into the White House, and that is our salvation. He really doesn't have the faintest clue how anything works and yet is convinced that he knows more than everyone about everything, so every day he gets stupider and stupider.

What question, R60? You just linked to SA's complete Twitter page.

Reading R60 just drives home for me that this is a crime scene. Every day that goes by evidence is deteriorating.

This is bigger than Trump being an illegitimate president. Bigger than Putin/Russia rigging our election. Bigger than a corrupt and complicit Republican Congress.

This goes back decades and involves multiple countries.

We have to make it a priority to get every interview possible; preserve every shred of evidence because we will be piecing this together for decades - long after many of the players will he dead.

And we should want to.

This isn’t a burden.

This is an opportunity to become America in a way we might not otherwise have been able to do.

And, ironically, we will have Putin to thank for it.

it's true, r63, and not just here. There are assholes taking over in country after country. This is going to turn into a giant war of everyone versus the assholes. Hope we are ready.

I agree with everything you said, R63, except for thanking Putin.

I want to thank Putin with a big grin and my middle finger high in the air, R65.

His plan to break us apart and humiliate us and lose our standing in the world will have backfired.

Thanks to him, our attention has turned to the cracks and loopholes in our system, and we will fix and overcome them.

We will hold our representatives accountable in ways we never assumed we would have to.

And I am absolutely looking forward to it!

R60 here: sorry, wrong link: a question no one's asking: for other legal analysts out there: If the Attorney General objected to Mueller not making a decision on obstruction, didn't he have the power to decline to accept Mueller's report until Mueller made a decision on obstruction? Mueller was his employee.

Or, why wouldn't he have asked Mueller to submit an addendum to the report under the new guidelines that Barr has recently put forth?

much better r67, and yeah, good damn question.

remains to be seen r66. Seriously it is the Age of the Assholes, all over the world. Netanyahu might be the only asshole who doesn't win this year, and that ain't guaranteed.

[quote]Maine's enthusiasm for Collins seems to have dried up.

Kinda like her VAJOINA

heh, r71

QEII shade ideas: serve the trumps a bucket of KFC with all the fixins

Look. Trump has a pattern of behavior. He has always had the reflexive habit of getting in his own way and making things worse with everything he has been involved with, all his adult life. Some how someone always bails him out. Right now the Russian oligarchs and Putin are his "Daddy" but now that he has be en exposed, and all his usual remedies from the past aren't working, he will only get more destructive. His new tariffs and his "wars" with China, and Mexico, and declaring emergencies.... are just the beginning. We have to be smart about how we get him out of office, and not allow Nancy to being bullied into acting before she has everything she needs to be e ffective. THis is not the time for symbolic gestures. WE have to focus on his removal. We have to focus on the Senate, and the Republicans in general. The name of the game is exposure.

R73, love it, laid out on silver platters on that huge dining table would be perfect.

More shade: Have a military band and parade in his honor where they play "The World Turned Upside Down."

I have a feeling that while Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Thomas may want Trump to stay forever, Justice Roberts, and even possibly Alito, who is a very odd duck, might side with the Liberals on the Court and see him for the threat he is. And Roberts holds a hammer over Kavanaugh's head, because he investigated him due to judicial complaints. Roberts will not be a patsy for the Extreme Right. He may already know a lot more about Russian involvement than we realize, even though at some point the Court has to be very careful to not put themselves in a bad position. But WTF, they're the Supremes.

I want so badly to believe Roberts and Alito will do the right thing. Thomas is a lost cause. Gorsuch and Kavanaugh are illegitimate.

Will You Sign up to Pray for the President?

'Mother' Pence is an accomplished art teacher

Praying for what for the President, a random meteor?

Please Democrats if any of you are reading, concentrate on the Senate and keeping the majority in the House. That's where the power is to get Trump out of office in the event he is re-elected and to neuter Mitch McConnell. There are some really great Dems who are campaigning for the Presidential nomination, but I think they would best serve us in the Senate right now.

What's next?

I don't really understand SA's question at R60. Someone explain please

All will be heterosexualists.

[quote]There are some really great Dems who are campaigning for the Presidential nomination, but I think they would best serve us in the Senate right now.

Losing Harris (CA) or Warren (MA) from the Senate if they were to win the Presidency, would not be problematic as those states will easily replace them with another Dem.

More Barr fuckery, explained by Seth Abramson:

[quote]What you should take from the executive branch of our government openly defying the judicial branch today over Flynn: Flynn's judge knows—as some of us do from our research—that when America hears the full story of what Flynn did, they'll want him in prison for at least a decade.

[quote](2 of 2) That is, the reason the judge issued an unusual order about releasing certain Flynn materials is that he wants America to know the truth. And that's *exactly* why William Barr isn't going to let America see those materials: it'll start off a much larger story being told.

[quote](PS) I'd bet anyone reading this that there has never in the history of the United States been a case where federal prosecutors sought *no jailtime* against a defendant who the judge accused *in open court* of "selling out his country," even using the word "treason" against him.

Oh come on folks, you must admit, she does look good.

[quote]We have to be smart about how we get him out of office, and not allow Nancy to being bullied into acting before she has everything she needs to be e ffective.

Nancy is being hammered on twitter to start impeachment, saying she's useless, ineffective and just a corporate democrat anyway. Same shit like 2016, splitting the vote, make people not vote for democrats.

I would run away screaming if I see that at r87 in a dark alley.

[quote]Spoke to Virginia Governor @RalphNortham last night, and the Mayor and Vice Mayor of Virginia Beach this morning, to offer condolences to that great community. The Federal Government is there, and will be, for whatever they may need. God bless the families and all!

His tweets about tragedies always come off so superficial or the minimum that needs to be said and that it is largely done because they are obligatory rather than something heart-felt. They also always have to refer to how much he is doing. I wish he would figure out sometimes an exclamation point is not necessary or appropriate.

Lindsey thinks she's quite fetching, licking her lips with a 'come hither' look in a new designer frock. Don't bother yourself little Lindsey! All men are repelled by you even if you're precluded and assumin' the position!

Susan Collins/ Is that an ankle brace or some type of high top that connects on the back of the foot/ankle? Did she trip?

Mueller literally announced his retirement. Do you really still believe he is going to get Trump removed from office?

Quite frankly, I am disappointed in Mueller for not speaking publicly about what his report contains. He knows Barr will stall and he knows the senate won't convict.

Comey, Rosenstein, Mueller - all republicans

Mitch presents hole

I can't believe it might come down to John fucking Roberts, and I can't believe that I too somehow think he'll do the right thing.

With apologies to R87, I understand we need humor, but I'm really tired of the LIndsay jokes. Right now, I just despise him too much and it rubs me the wrong way. If there's anyone who is truly still enjoying them, speak up as I don't want to ruin your fun.

Thank you.

Do not for one second think Roberts will do the right thing. Or Alito. They won't. Roberts is hard core right wing except for a few, very few, instances.

I horror movie about Mother Pence or Mother Pence inspired would be awesome. I'm thinking 'The Blair Witch Project'. Calling Jordan Peele.

There is a larger conspiracy going back decades and it is entrenched in the GOP. It is the only party that would allow it. They tried to recruit Dems but there was no way they could get enough of them. Say what you will of corporate Dems, they are light years better than any GOPers of any stripe.

We are an oligarch now no question. We've had a slow moving coup going on for decades. We will get through this but it will be a bitch to do it.

Have faith in Nancy. She's frazzled but don't mistake that for weakness.

R97, I enjoy them!!

But then again, I'm a lesbian.

Washington Post: Trump defies close advisers in deciding to threaten Mexico with disruptive tariffs

Vox: Analysis: William Barr vs. Robert Mueller, explained

NYT: The Paparazzi Staked Outside Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner’s D.C. Home

I wonder if they're expecting something to happen.

There's a senate seat coming up in Texas in 2020. John Cornyn is a real bastard. Beto came within 3 points of beating Ted Cruz. WTF doesn't he run against Cornyn.

I agree that the Lindsey comedy hour stuff is juvenile and might be funny to people in high school. But it’s not the least bit funny or amusing.

Walter Shaub wrote an interesting tweet storm this morning. Very scary.

In the USA, isn't a person innocent unless proven guilty?

r107

If I wanted to suggest that Donald Trump is innocent I would have said so in my report.

Why aren't corporations that are losing money pressuring trump admin into stopping the tariff war?

I would be more scared if trump was in good health and not a moron with dementia. Still his enablers are scary AF and seem to be running a long game with or without cheeto

r109. My guess is that this is some conspiracy to destroy unions once and for all in order to stay in business in these trying, globalized times. Then come the slave wages where anyone with a job should be happy that he has a job since there are many others who don't have one and live below poverty level.

That’s what I want to know.

The deplorables have the administration in their hands. Yet they demand nothing. They watch their factories close, farms go bankrupt and a further erosion of workers rights yet they don’t use a bit of their power. Lambs to slaughter.

R97 I don’t enjoy them. It’s just the same thing over and over and over. Maybe if something was said that added to the conversation at the same time...

R106 Walter Shaub. Man, I forgot all about him. I used to check his twitter feed on a regular basis. Thank you.

R97 do you really think your trolling is going to influence anyone?

^that was meant for R93 not R97.

R109, they don’t complain because they are passing their costs along to consumers.

The Hill (I know, I know): Pelosi promises 'ironclad case' against Trump

Luv the Miss Lindzey stuff. Another lesbian and senior.

Concerned Collins and Southern Belle Graham should get their act on the road.

[quote]DJT is stressed. With security and other staff watching, fresh pee pee girls may not be available to slip inside to render temporary relief.

Can't Kellyanne & Sarah just piss for him? On him?

R107, in the USA the complete phrase is 'innocent until proven guilty *in a court of law*.'

R107 sounds like a foreign troll.

Dont like humor, just delete. And if there are links, dont open. Alt-right, Boris, etc., dont like seeing exposure of LG, Barr, McConnell Jordan, Gaetz, Meadows, Gohmert, Collins, Nunes, Junior, 'Mother', etc. hypocrisy, in a comical or a serious way. So, they should avoid political threads in gay chat forums.

I was looking through a Wikipedia Page titled "Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections" lots of interesting things I had never heard before in this timeline and I have been following this very closely. Things like this:

[quote] House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy and House Speaker Paul Ryan meet separately with Ukrainian Prime Minister Volodymyr Groysman at the Capitol. Groysman describes to them how the Kremlin is financing populist politicians in Eastern Europe to damage democratic institutions. McCarthy and Ryan have a private meeting afterwards with GOP leaders that is secretly recorded. Toward the end of their conversation, after laughing at the DNC hacking, McCarthy says, "there's two people, I think, Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump...[laughter]...swear to God." Ryan then tells everyone to keep this conversation secret. A transcript of the recording becomes public a year later.

Man is every Republican a traitor to the US?

German chancellor Gerhard Schröder (staunch social democrat), after he lost to Angela Merkel in 2005 went straight to Moscow to accept a position on the board of Rosneft and Gasprom. A lot of the politicians in the Hapsburg group are not right wingers but in fact lefties.

I mentioned this earlier on. Putin is one of the richest men in the world, he can bribe left and right to get his way. Hillary was talking about this on Colbert some months ago. How she thinks that all of a suddenly people she knew and had a success working relationship with, people within the GOP, are bought, bribed, blackmailed, extortioned and may be even threatened to do things they know better not to do. She wasn't mentioning Putin, but that was my guess she was alluding to.

R121 Kellyanne is amused.

R121 And Sarah practicing for it.

There really can’t be enough Republicans in Maine to keep electing Susan Collins. How does it keep happening?

R129 same old story in a lot of states. Middle aged and older white heterosexuals tend to turn out in higher voting numbers consistently. Trump has animated a lot of people who usually sit out to start voting though so hopefully 2020 will be a Dem success though who knows what the repubs and Russians have up their sleeves

Washington Post: Emmet Flood, White House lawyer brought on to help navigate Russia investigation, to depart June 14, Trump says

Maine has their share of MAGAs. Trump received an electoral vote from part of the state.

Ever watch North Woods Law?

r131, I think we may find that Flood more than any other lawyer saved Trump from himself. The details of his role as WH Counsel and Special Counsel to President Trump are sparse.

omfg Barr has 1 of the WORST voices I've ever heard. It just sounds so ugly and really hurts my ears. A good villain voice

R131 June 14th will be Trump's 72nd Birthday.

r135, 73rd.

Hmmm.... he's going off the rails again....

R137 does it count if I pray for Trump to die? or should I ask Franklin?

R138 I don't want him to die. I want to kidnap him, imprison him in my basement, and torture him on a daily basis. I'd have a 24hr video feed for all the world to see. People could send suggestions as to what they'd want to see me do to him.

Spiritualists say we shouldn't wish others ill. I say it's' fair to wish that someone receives 3x the energy he send out to others.

Each time I pray, I ask the Lord to SMITE our enemies.....I ask God to smite all those who are in a position to do great good, but instead they chose to do great harm. I ask God to smite political leaders especially, the people who are betraying their stewardship and through greed, cowardice, and corruption they harm people who are vulnerable. I ask the Lord to smite those who abuse power to harm people.

r141, you're having some kind of delusional meltdown.

r106, I think that deserves its own thread.

Apostolic fundamentalists are quite bizzare with their art work & coloring books.

Here's one for your shopping list.

The Ping May

The notorious Cocaine Mitch cargo ship.

I want Trump to choke on the chlorinated chicken he has at the State dinner.

R63, From your lips to Mueller's ears.

Oh, wait. I guess investigating global money-laundering, bank fraud, governmental "interference," and blackmail---all of which Mueller must have encountered---were above his patience. Or against the holy DoJ policy.

Flynn got a deal because....?

"patience" was supposed to be "paygrade."

yeah it makes one wonder why there were so many plea deals/attempted plea deals...plea deals always imply there's someone bigger up the chain that the prosecutors are looking to charge.

Unless all those bigger names were fished out in other investigations

R115, you confuse trolling with the truth. Mueller really did retire.and he neglected to indict any American for colluding with Russia. Without criminal charges, you will never get an obstruction of justice charge to stick. Wake up. Trump will serve out his term and he will likely be re-elected as well.

R150 Look at the freaking graphic at the start of this thread. Mueller said that he didn't indict because it was not the DOJ's understanding that he could. And he also said, "If we could have exonerated Trump from this, we would have said so."

It's up to the Congress.

Most Americans have no idea that Trump is guilty of obstruction, even though they watched him obstruct on TV. Why are Americans so ignorant?

[quote]he will likely be re-elected as well.

What do you base that on, R150? Anything is possible, but I don't think his re-election is likely.

Mueller is a goddamn idiot who follows the logic from 1890. What a fool!

Bill Barr needs to be impeached, today. He is lying filth.

R153, the arrests are going to begin this week. Plotting to unseat a President is nothing less than an Insurrection. Declassification will result in an avalanche of arrests. The Deep State is panicking.

R156 Don't do drug!

Barr is definitely going to keep muddying the waters though. I have a feeling he'll unfortunately release only select information that makes the FBI look questionable even though anyone who's been following the facts knows their investigation was based on solid ground.

R152 because many Americans take for granted what it's like to be in a free, progressive country. They keep thinking nothing "that serious" will ever happen here and eventually things will be sorted out. They find news and politics boring. When they're not at work/school and spending time with their partner/family, they're watching scripted tv, sports, reality shows etc. the country as a whole has dumbed down. I love entertainment too but far too many people focus on it instead of important stuff.

[quote] Most Americans have no idea that Trump is guilty of obstruction, even though they watched him obstruct on TV. Why are Americans so ignorant?

I almost want to do a "fixed that for ya" by adding the word willingly in "Why are Americans so willingly ignorant?",

Most of us are raised to have blind faith and hand over responsiblity to a higher power. May that be a deity like God (or in most cases Satan dressed up as God) or the government and never ever question higher authority starting in the infant stage where parents and your local priest know best. Those who do question authority have no faith and that's worse than a lot of actual crimes out there.

R156, no honey. TRUMP is panicking. Fixed that for you, whore.

I am afraid there will be no arrest but oh how I wish there would be.

When Trump is pushing for Boris Johnson, I hope his endorsement will turn the British off Johnson. Trump has done something very dirty in Briton. I wish someone in England would kill Trump while he is there. Trump is a fascist and he needs to be gone.

Trump is not panicking at all, he believes all his sins will be covered and excused. I am afraid he is right.

R162, just just said the opposite of what Pelosi said, just yesterday I believe.

is it true that Trump is going to bring his adult 3 kids as if he's giving the appearance they're the US "royal family" and some kind of dynasty? how fucking nauseating

R164 Hope they are not expecting a warm welcome. Sounds like it would be a chilly reception from the Brits.

I had no idea that Russians were also stoking the misinformation about getting the measles vaccine. Insidious. Yet Dump has not rebuked Putin for the election interference or Russian jets in Alaskan airspace.

Weaponized Health Communication: Twitter Bots and Russian Trolls Amplify the Vaccine Debate:

Russians are knee deep in all this filth. I worry every time I hear someone raking Nancy Pelosi over the coals about not impeaching the real estate con man RIGHT NOW. I think, do they understand that their social media feeds are infested with vodka swilling trolls pushing several narratives to several groups at once in order to fracture all resistance to this treasonous administration and his puppet Senate?

The mayor of some South Carolina town with the highest black voting block in the state just endorsed Bill DiBlasio and I immediately thought - he must have Ruskkie bots all over his twitter feed or wherever he gets his news and information. There are several Bernies they can promote this year, not just one, taking attention away from viable candidates who can beat the con man.

I fear most Americans are so dumbed down and unable to think critically and skeptically about the information they receive that they are like sitting ducks for any and all misinformation campaigns both foreign (Putin) and domestic (Barr). Unfortunately there's no vaccine for stupid.

r164 4. He's bringing Tiffany, too. Only Barron is being left out which is just weird.

Those children are his security blanket. And you just know Ivanka already thinks she is some kind of special royal princess deserving of a coronation. They all imagine themselves part of a dynasty.

R167 Agreed!

The new opiate of the American people are our f*cking "smart"phones.

Wake the eff up, America!!!

OP, thank you for your Treason Threads. Since 2017, you've been keeping US going with information and entertainment. I just wish Donald Trump would get going to prison. But all in due time, so that we can send Trump's family and friends to prison with him.

Also to FCI, thank you for your views from the inside. From the outside looking in the process to punish Donald Trump for his crimes seems slow going. But, unlike Watergate, it's not just the Administration acting criminal. It's also the GOP (Greedy Old Pricks) and the Evil Angels (Franklin Graham, et al) breaking the law. You know, Russia didn't just infiltrate America, Russia exploited America's corruption. And, that's going to take time to bring down. So, thank you FCI for keeping our spirits up.

And to Datalounge, thank you for being here so that we can survive out there. Especially, today when Hypocritical Holier-than-Thous offer prayer for their Huckster-in-Chief, Donald Trump. A man so vile that Donald Trump would not only order the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, Donald Trump would also sell the wood and jack it up at triple the price, along with the nails 1 for a dollar/3 for five.

You know, without a sense of humor the world would be a lot more painful. So, thanks for helping me to ease the pain. As, I leave with my moniker Holly Moses because Holy Moses has already been taken. And, it is Datalounge. Thank you.

r161 It almost certainly won't be a federal arrest but watch the NYAG's office. the state legislature just made it legal for New York State to bring state charges against people who have received presidential pardons and word is Tish James is preparing a RICO indictment against the Trump Organization. If it wins, Donald, Uday and Qusay, and Ivanka and Jared all go to prison and the state confiscates their property.

The Democrats will just tease the possibility of impeachment until it is 2020 and then they will claim that you can't impeach a president during an election year.

Then they will all cross their fingers and hope that the country elects a Democratic president in 2020.

Does this sound familiar? It should, it is the same strategy they used in 2016; look how successful it was that year.

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If anyone had posted this I missed it and apologize.

And Tisha James is a black woman so it will be double delicious.

[quote]he's giving the appearance they're the US "royal family" and some kind of dynasty?

Not for one second would anyone sane be fooled. They all look like grifter trash because that's what they are. Trump (of course) couldn't impress New York society; and in the Windsors' court circles it'll be three days of sheer diplomatic humouring. You can imagine the intense relief and story-comparing around dinner tables when Air Force One climbs back into the sky.

See again there is a "leave Lindsey alone" segment on DL from whatever sources or motivations, but disagree.

When we all come out of this fever dream of Trumplandia, I hope the people that are never, ever again taken seriously are the Christian Right. And every time the Christian Right are mentioned on TV, they should have to show that picture at r143.

Trump just tweeted that he never called Megan Markle “nasty.” He is obviously lying but could this be a further sign of his dementia and mental decline?

He correctly spelled her name in the tweet so that was hint #1 that somebody on his team tweeted that.

[quote]He is obviously lying but could this be a further sign of his dementia and mental decline?

I don't think so. Not that I don't think there is possible dementia and mental decline, but him lying about something even when he knows there is evidence to the contrary is something that is just natural to him, regardless of his mental state.

Operation Crossfire Hurricane is going to be back in the news this month. The real shocker is that the UK government was part and part of the Deep State plot to oust Trump from office. Effectively Theresa May and Her Majesty's government were key players in the coup d'etat, which, coming from a foreign country is tantamount to an act of war.

part and parcel of the Deep State plot, that is.

Rumor is that the feds are raiding the house of Hillary's IT guru, Paul "Stone Tear" Combetta, as we speak. Shit is about to get real.

So all this time, the call was coming from inside Westminster? It is to laugh, Boris.

QAnon is on the case, and stepping on rakes.

LOL! Trump is already mouthing off about Brexit. I SO hope he is disliked enough in the UK so that it causes people to cancel Brexit, have a new referendum, and vote to remain. Everyone knows a lot more about Russia's meddling in the UK Brexit election now than they did when it happened. I love the Mayor of London.

What is R183 talking about?

Support and approval for Ms. Susan Collins is drying up to match her dessicated pussy.

Whenever I read Deep State I dismiss it as the ramblings of some Q-Anon incel who suffers from Breitbart or Alex Jones withdrawl.

[quote]QAnon is on the case, and stepping on rakes.

It would be more helpful if they picked them up and used them as intended, for forest fire prevention.

Did anyone see that bearded man storm the stage and grab Kamala Harris’s microphone right from her hand at a MoveOn.Org event this past weekend?

Yes, WTF!! Where the hell was security?? It took too long a time to get people up there to escort that nut off the stage.

New statue of Barr & Mitch

Has Pres Bone Spurs even seen his cock in decades? I bet it smells all the time. He can't clean his ass or cock properly because he is lazy, too fat and can't smell due to the adderall usage.

On another topic, the trolls are so obvious in how they are trying to divide us. I'm sure many of them crow about how it is working on some level. The Impeachment RIGHT NOW it their #1 right now. It is stupid because Nancy isn't going to do, or be pressured to do, something she feels is wrong or the wrong time. She has an iron spine.

What is great is the debate about impeachment due to the RIGHT NOW trolls really keeps his crimes in the news. The more this is being pushed, the more facts come out about exactly why he should be impeached.

I realize some of the RIGHT NOW posters here are not actual Russian trolls but realize you are falling for their tactics. You may have very valid arguments and many people are with you. I think Nancy believes this is healthy if the debate is constructive. Calling Dems weak and her ineffective is not constructive and is what the trolls want. If you believe impeachment needs to start RIGHT NOW by all means lay out your case. That is great for our side. IMO, please refrain from attacking Dems and put your effort into all the reasons this criminal should not be president and should be impeached.

I do share a concern that Democrats will just tease impeachment and just hope that they win the 2020 elections. There's no guarantee we will win though. The Democrats were too cautious in 2016 with the handling of the Russian interference and collusion on the part of the Trump campaign. As big of a fan as I am of Obama, he miscalculated. Maybe there was no way he'd win as he was finishing his second term and the public almost always turns against a 2-term President's party.

What we learned is we cannot have that same thinking in the future. We know Trump, McConnell and the rest will spin ANYTHING no matter what. They will spin it if Trump doesn't get impeached, saying Democrats couldn't because "there was nothing there". It will be hard for Democrats to take the case up again if Trump gets reelected and they didn't impeach before. If Democrats do actually pull the trigger and impeach, then yes they will spin that too. So the point is nothing the Democrats do or don't do will be safe from spin. Clinton's impeachment ended up hurting the Democrats after and I don't see why it wouldn't hurt repubs now.

The current problem is only 50 House members are calling for impeachment. That's not enough. I really hope we can get access to Trump's financial records soon as that will surely show Russian links.

The hearings need to get going too. Democrats maybe shouldn't have taken their vacation during this time. Doing so makes this seem less important than it is.

We need to start getting public hearings with Hicks, McGahan and Mueller.

I'd prefer a quicker way.

Does anyone know a fat man, as fat as Trump, who has not seen his penis in ages and yet is a happy, upbeat person?

There might be something to it.

No, R150, I don't confuse anything. You confuse yourself as not being extremely obvious in your trolling, troll.

NYT: Democrats Are Determined to Spotlight Trump’s Misdeeds, but Remain Divided on How

Trolls like R183 working over the weekend means something's about to come out. I love it.

I find him....what's the word.....punchable.

CBS: Kennedy: Dems should "go hard or go home" on impeachment

ugh that annoying famewhore masquerading as a journalist Jonathan Swan has a new interview with Kushner coming up on Axios' HBO show tonight. Kushner is currently on his Middle East tour parading around as some intellectual deal and peace maker. I really want this entitled stupid brat in NY state prison in a few years. I have faith in Tish James

Newsweek: GOP's 'Cult' of Trump Makes Impeachment Unlikely, Says Adam Schiff

Dems, sadly, have to play things carefully because they do not have the huge propaganda machine conservatives have. Also, liberal brains do not work the same as conservative brains. Conservative brains react far more emotionally and crave platitudes. Liberals are, to their disadvantage most of the time, nuanced and react to facts. Despite what we've been told, Liberals do not have a huge propaganda machine. Even if 100% of journalists were Liberal, they work overtime to show they are fair and usually end up always playing the "bothsides" game which always hurts Liberals/Dems.

What they can control is messaging and it is about damn time they get their own talking points and stick to them!

It infuriates me that even polititians like Schiff do not use the actual terminology.

The Democratic House impeaches and the Republican Senate convicts.

The Dems could have had social media on their side, but they let Silicon Valley fall in the hands of the alt right and creeps like Peter Thiel. Not to mention Zuckerberg selling Facebook data to the highest (right wing conservative) bidder.

r207 But they weren't ready to cast aside their integrity and values. Also, you cannot fix extreme greed. Greed will be our downfall and the GOP is ready with open arms. It takes audacity of epic proportions when you have the rich, extremely rich, bellyache over paying just a fraction higher in taxes as if their own world would come crashing down. This is how Russia ended up a hellish oligarch and Pres Bone Spurs is leading us down that path at lightening speed. He'll be stopped but we also have to stop the rich and their greed.

sadly I think all the assholes in the Trump admin will be able to remain part of the future GOP campaigns and administrations like this Trump era had never happened. They really all should be considered outcasts and rejected but the repubs have no principles so that won't happen

Thank you Datalounge for your points of view. As I think it is important to know where both sides are coming from. Especially, on this so-called National Day of Prayer.

As with most people, we try to strive for The Greater Good. Which according to the First Amendment of the Constitution allows US to do so with Freedom of Religion. So, whether it be by reading the Bible or the Koran, by wearing a yarmulke or rosary beads, by believing with our souls or with our conscience, all of US have the right to pray or not to pray as we choose.

For example, the Bible, Genesis 1:27, says "God created man in HIS own image." Which is what most Christians and Jews in America believe. But, that's not the problem.

As with Donald Trump and his Chumps (the GOP and Evangelicals), they believe that God was created in THEIR own image. That's why it's O.K. to them to hate Gays. That's why it's O.K. to them to ban Muslims. That's why it's O.K. to them to separate Brown families. That's why it's O.K. to them to kill Blacks. That's why it's O.K. to them to abuse Women. Because, in their minds, when they sin it's O.K. As long as they sin to win for their God, themselves. Also known to them as me, myself, and I.

However, all is not lost. As, the Bible, John 8:32, says the truth will set you free. As, long as we always fight for our First Amendment right of Freedom of Speech to get the truth out there. No matter where (Datalounge) it may be.

Zuckerberg & Facebook is not safe for you or the country. This guy keeps getting by selling your information.

I'm a holy roller, R210. Guess what my eyes are doing?

r195 You can skip Vol. 1 if you want and skip right to Vol. 2. It couldn't be more clear.

r213 What was your point? We get it. But we have a process. Nancy may say one thing in public, but she has a plan. I wish the RIGHT NOWers would stop acting like the Dems are doing nothing or they are afraid of impeaching him. They are not. There is so much to consider, strategy wise, in order to ensure we get this demon out of office. If you cannot understand or see that, then you're part of the problem.

I've read most of the report over a few days. R213, yes, Vol. 2 contains the essential parts. It is clear some very disgusting wrongdoing occurred. The media has a much softer tone about this than what the written content presents. Few of these anchors and reporters have actually read it, with most showing little knowledge of the details. The ones that have, display more alarm about it. Much of Congress having not read it to date is shameful. They have responsibility to the citizenry to so in timely fashion Barr made almost total contrary conclusions as to what is spelled-out in the report. What a sham! As to Mueller, his verbal summary was consistent, but delivered in a bureaucratic way that was considerably gentler than what he delivered in writing. His press briefing needed a more forceful dimension to it per the threats to come, and the need for immediate action.

The Mueller Report should be compulsory reading for every high school and college student in America no matter what subjects they study.

I was going to include the general population but why bother? You can't force anything on them.

Our President is a criminal....an uncharged one, but still a criminal.

Closing in on his 73rd. I guess it's true what they say -- evil hangs around a while.

It would be great if Trump died naked, alone, and covered in his own feces and vomit.

Some pig from something called Republicans Overseas or some such shit was just on LBC Radio in the UK and described Trump as a “diplomat.” Good God.

I know I'll be vomiting when they give him the funeral of a former 'statesman' R219. I hope I live to see the day no matter how much pomp they hurl at his bloated corpse. Would be wonderful if that's the only time it happens.

R171, Yes, and he'd STILL go bankrupt!

I have to give Donald Trump credit for making these right wing, conservative Christians look like even bigger hypocrites than when they endorsed Mormon Mitt Romney. They have no shame, no crediblity, and no moral authority.

Daily News: Trump sent factually dubious letter praising Giuliani for razing homeless encampment blocks from his luxe apartment towers

He needs as many prayers as he can get and it still won't be enough. This is the fate of the self-destructive. He's had a lot of protection and thinks himself all powerful....for now. All things come to an end.

R204, Adam should be-phrase. It makes conviction unlikely.

But laying out the facts with sworn witnesses, and jailing them on perjury charges later if called for, on daily television might just convince more American citizens of Trump's guilt in conspiracy, obstruction, subornation of perjury, acceptance of emoluments, etc.

Re-phrase.

The media needs to call out the GOP for not even reading the Mueller report. Amash even called them out. It is jaw dropping. They have no shame, morals nor ethics. Any vote for a R is endorsing lawlessness.

[quote] The media needs to call out the GOP for not even reading the Mueller report.

The media should SHAME the voters, the donors, and the supporters of the Republican Party. Do they really condone the actions of the Republican Party led by Mitch McConnell? Do they really think Donal Trump is doing such a great job? If yes, SHAME ON YOU!

Sorry, Donald Trump, of course.

Shame the fuck out of these assholes.

You cannot shame the shameless sociopaths that make up 99.9% of the GOP.

It would be great, but the media's scared shitless about scaring off any audience. When you stand for everything, you stand for nothing.

THE MEDIA IS OWNED by the same people contributing to MAGA behind the scenes....obscene amounts of money. Blame the Reagan era deregulation of the FCC. These fucks play a very long game. It's still the wrong one.

[quote] These fucks play a very long game.

At some point we have to take a good look at ourselves and ask: Who is the bigger fuck, the ones who play the game or the ones who not only let them play the game but also play along?

The 1% and their hired representatives (including bribed polititians and the media) would have no fucking power over us if we refused to play along. Starting with civil disobedience. But then we may have to face repercussions like our Netflix accounts no longer working. And that would be a fate worse than death!

Not paying federal income taxes would do it for me, R234. I'm tired of paying for bloated billionaire tax breaks and endless wars against terrorism.

We are cursed by an unholy alliance of Trump, McConnell and Graham. Can’t help thinking how many wealthy British and German aristocrats enabled and excused Hitler until it was too late to stop him.

r235 We also subsidized all these major sports stadiums. When you think about how much welfare the rich get, it should cause rioting from both the right and left. But the right always directs attention to the "lazy poor" who would rather sit on their ass, get high and get welfare than get a job. Whether that is fair or not, the real money is going to rich fucks who suck up so much welfare in the form of tax breaks, incentives and what not that we all pay for.

And the rich just sit back and laugh their asses off at the poor and middle class who carry their water by arguing they need these things. The rich play cities against cities in a sick game of who they can grift the most from.

They don't riot because that would be 'socialism' and that's wrong, R237. It's the system where little kids rat out their parents for giving water to Mexican immigrants crossing the desert or you don't believe you can 'make it' and so you're a loser.

The American Dream is such a con job. There are great stories and the possibilities are there, but at what expense? We have a few billionaires and cities full of the homeless. Clearly something has broken and it's not a sin to say it's capitalism.

What broke were the propaganda of conservatives, the con job of tax cuts for the wealthy. Capitalism is just fine but with a lot of regulation and a socialism safety net. It wasn't perfect but it worked for the most part. Yes, it was inconvenient to many companies but it gave us a great middle class with great benefits. We chipped away at that, bought the con job of deregulation and tax cuts, and everyone is shocked the very top have all the money and everyone else is left with scraps. But, of course, they shift the blame to immigrants and welfare queens as if they would even touch the amount of money grifted from the avg worker. Greed went into insane levels.

This all has led us to where we are now- a party corrupt to the core, breath-takingly corrupt. A criminal, slimy, corrupt, joke of a president.

NBC: Top House Dem Clyburn says he believes chamber eventually will impeach Trump

R221, what about the inevitable expressways, middle schools, monuments that will exalt his name. And, of course, the Library to enshrine his word and deed.

Who says DJT does not read?

Ewwww, R242.

Guy planning massive protests in London is speaking now on UK radio. Trump will not be facing a pleasant welcome. I can’t wait.

He’s from United Against Trump. He said on Tuesday “We’ll be surrounding him like a great wall, however we’re ordinary Britons who strongly believe he’s a monster who should never have been invited here.”

Seth Abramson outlines what’s known about the massive conspiracy to get Dump elected, reported in the NYT today. He says "The plot was hatched in 2015; the nations involved were Russia, Israel, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain, and Egypt." He goes on to say that "On August 3, 2016, agents of Israel, Russia, the UAE, and Saudi Arabia got to Trump Jr. At that August 3 Trump Tower meeting, both the family and campaign were represented: the family via Don Jr., the campaign via Trump's chief domestic policy adviser, Stephen Miller. Four nations offered the Trump campaign illegal pre-election assistance; Don Jr. said yes."

4 investigations were spun off by Mueller:

POST-MUELLER INVESTIGATION #1, per the NYT: "Investigators are still examining the campaign contacts of an Israeli specialist in social media manipulation who has worked for Prince Mohammed [bin Zayed of the UAE]."

2/ POST-MUELLER INVESTIGATION #2, per the NYT: "Investigators are still examining...a Lebanese-American businessman [George Nader] who acted as [a pre-election] emissary [for Mohammed bin Zayed of the UAE, also known as "MBZ"].

3/ POST-MUELLER INVESTIGATION #3, per the NYT: "Prosecutors are investigating whether another top Republican donor whose security company worked for the prince [Elliot Broidy, named RNC deputy finance chair post-election by Trump] should legally have registered as [MBZ's] agent."

4/ (The NEW YORK TIMES has also implied that a *fourth* investigation is ongoing—but because the reference to it mentions the "special counsel," I've held off on saying that the TIMES is "officially" reporting it as ongoing. In the next tweet I'll summarize its contours, though.)

5/ POST-MUELLER INVESTIGATION #4, per the NYT (see prior tweet for note): "[Prosecutors] also questioned Rashid al-Malik, an Emirati real-estate developer close to MBZ and...the head of Emirati intelligence. Mr. al-Malik is also close to Mr. Trump’s friend Tom Barrack... (cont.)

6/ ...and investigators are asking whether al-Malik was part of an illegal [UAE] influence scheme, according to two people familiar with the matter."

Full unrolled twitter thread linked below.

Mueller’s gotta testify. Subpoena his ass. Enough is enough.

I don't understand how Mueller wouldn't understand that there are things he will be asked beyond, "So, did it say this in the report?" or "Did you look into this in the report?", etc. The first question is going to be, "Were you directed in any way to finish up, shorten, lessen the scope of, or end the Russia investigation by William Barr or Rod Rosenstein at William Barr's direction upon William Barr's appointment as AG?"

Start throwing these people in jail if they refuse to appear before congress and or turn over information

Bloomberg: Trump Says Economic Adviser Chair Hassett to Leave Job Shortly

Media-ite: Kushner Refuses to Talk About Trump’s Birtherism and Muslim Ban When Asked If They’re Racist in Tense Interview

Anyone catch the Jared Kushners interview ?

1) he’s aging terribly

2) he a big dope

NYT: A ‘Bridge’ to China, and Her Family’s Business, in the Trump Cabinet

Evangelicals worship Trump, whose personal Pastor is Paula White-Cain. Isn't it shocking that she's a conventionally attractive blonde?

It's only we who are expected to be straight and monogamous and adhere to our vows. The christian leaders have to fall and be tempted and be hypocritical fuckfaced whores in order to redeem us. Make sense?

OK, that Aussie is a total dick but the way he crushed Kushner is a thing of beauty. Bravo.

R254 The Xtian leaders also have to accumulate obscene amount of wealth in order to "save" their ignoramus followers.

I swear, you can swing a dead cat and take out half-a-dozen of those blonde Xtian types.

Off topic, but I just looked at that clip at R251 and I don't understand why do some DLers find Kushner attractive. He has a face of an old man injected with a can of Botox.

According to an upcoming book obtained by The Guardian, Bannon predicts Trump will be abandoned by his base following various investigations into his family’s secretive finances. “This is where it isn’t a witch hunt — even for the hard core, this is where he turns into just a crooked business guy, and one worth $50 [million] instead of $10 [billion]. Not the billionaire he said he was, just another scumbag,” Bannon tells Michael Wolff in Siege: Trump Under Fire, according to an advance copy seen by The Guardian.

I don't know if I can hang on until he is somehow arrested and Trumps siege of the world is over.

The BernieBros tell their culty followers to not trust corporate media like WaPo, NPR, MSNBC but instead Glenn Greenwald, intercept and TYT.

My local NPR station was pretty much Sanders central in 2016. A week before the general election they still talked about him.

Bern Bro, from four years ago, dropped out of college in the fall of 2016. He was already age 24 then. He went back to living with mom, moving into the basement for more privacy. He's delivered pizza since for Pappa John's, as part time work. He's waiting for Bernie to be elected in 2020 so he can go back to college, tuition-free, and finish earning an economics degree, which will take at least another year and a half to finish. We'll get married once he graduates.

The Chaos are chain migration.

26% of Bernie's followers will vote for Trump, even if Warren is going to be the nominee.

Bernie Sanders' press secretary, intercept writer Biahna Joy Gray in 2016.

Happy to serve Vladimir Putin!

Just woe, R266.

A “BernieSis” friend of mine who caucuses for Sanders in Washington State (!), albeit one who voted for Clinton in the general, says that she gets her information mainly from the Intercept and Glenn Greenwald. I told her she was reading Putin propaganda. We ended up getting into a large argument in a restaurant.

It's amazing to me so many would trust a moron like Trump to their bidding. I mean so far it's not really working if you read the MBZ article. Sure he is sowing chaos but it is just breeding more chaos.

Well, we should be glad he’s chaotic and not efficient and effective.

Jared Kushner = Poster Boy for the dangers of Retin-A

Glenn Greenwald is the fucking WORST. I listened to The Intercept once where he and Cahill were trashing Maddow for scare mongering about Russia.

Fucktards.

R197, Jodie is still waiting to be impressed.

This is the month Spygate enters the national consciousness. Obama is Nixon multiplied exponentially.

I can't wait until Trump starts turning on Steve Bannon.

That should be really fun, R274. Bannon is certainly not wrong.

Re-watched that doc. on Watergate last night. Very similar to what we're experiencing now, as Nixon was also a lying sociopath, obsessed with vengeance.

They have to impeach Trump. Ugly, depressing, pathetic... but absolutely necessary. He's guilty.

As Mueller's other cases are explained to the masses by Seth, et al, this clip should be played everywhere non-stop.

FYI : Bannon's book title "Siege" is a wink to his fellow Nazis.

It’s not Bannon’s book title, R278. He’s being quoted as a source in Michael Wolff’s follow-up, titled Siege.

CNBC: Trump calls for a boycott of AT&T to force 'big changes' at CNN – 'It is so unfair with such bad, Fake News!'

The Hill: Kushner on whether he'd contact FBI if Russians ask for another meeting: 'I don't know'

Watching that whore in Westminster Abbey makes me want to puke.

#279, Wolff wouldn't have any books without Steve Bannon. He is basically Bannon's press agent.

I stand by my statement: Bannon suggested the title.

Reuters: Donald Trump welcomed to Buckingham Palace by Queen Elizabeth

The Guardian: Donald Trump insults Sadiq Khan as he lands in UK for state visit

R250 and r251, Jared looks like his own death mask.

R273 is a case study for bringing back involuntary institutionalization.

The Republican goal is to goad the Democratic majority in the House into Impeachment now. There are so-called Liberal/Left people like those who supported Bernie last time, or those who romanticize the Impeachment process and believe "the public will rise up and force the Senate to act!" LOLOL! The Republicans believe that if they manipulate public opinion effectively, (with Russian help) they can divide the Democrats in the House, they can weaken Pelosi, and they can create enough dissatisfaction among voters so that we will throw the "cowardly " Democrats out of office in 2020.

Please remember. This election in 2020 is not only about the President. It is about Gerrymandering. Legislative redistricting happens after the Census every ten years. That would be 2020. We won both Houses of Congress in 2006. We did not step up, show up in 2010 and we lost the House and Senate, and the gerrymandering and voter suppression became the crisis they are now.

The objective must be to remove Trump from office. If we have to remove Barr, McConnell & Graham in the process than so be it. But unless we can get 20 Republican Senators to join the Democrats voting to remove Trump from office, there is no value in an empty gesture, which is what Impeachment without Senate support would be.

If the Senate didn't rise up when Trump declared an emergency to bypass Congress, when he locked kids in cages and failed to re united them with their parents, and a host of other outrageous abuses of power, then they will not do a damned thing now. And the House's public investigative hearings which will lead to a formal Impeachment Inquiry are going on right now even if they aren't being covered by media. They're public, most of them are not are closed door hearings.

We need to focus. We must pressure our states to make sure the elections are secure. Join with groups who are doing that. We have to get good people to run for Legislature in every state. State Houses make important decisions. We need to work to hold the House, flip the Senate, and either defeat Trump, or Impeach him when can we control the whole fucking process.

I'm convinced we can finally be rid of him by June 2021 at the latest. Maybe even sooner than Election Day, 2020. But unless the Senate has the will we're stuck, so we need to protect our advantages and build on them, not bicker and piss away our strengths.

Jared in R281 looks the perfect soulless Nazi. There is absolutely zero humanity behind that pod-person visage.

I really have never before seen such a "nothing" face: dead eyes; Mattel skin; embalmed mouth.

Mourn him not, for he's already dead.

r288 Standing ovation! Bravo! Well said and I completely agree. The census and all of that really is the new SC seat. Almost as important. Also, we are counting on RBG and S Breyer to hang on another 4 years so, really, another SC seat is on the line. Russians are sowing discord over impeachment. Fine, if someone wants it, but do not lose focus if the Dems do not impeach now. If they don't, there is a reason.

Jared, I hate to admit, is kinda hot but he does have that soulless Nazi look. If you look at any Nazi film or photos from Germany in the 30's and 40's, He has a very scary look behind those dead eyes. Hannibal Lecter doesn't even have that evil look.

What is going on with Greenwald and all that nonsense? I don't even pay attention and I don't want to google. I understand if someone doesn't want to give me the cliff notes. The whole carrying water for Russia/Anti-Hillary angle/Bernie never being called out for his Russia support is so odd.

I don't trust this Bannon stuff. At the end of the day, he wants him to succeed. They are working together no matter how harsh Bannon "criticizes".

The Nixon parallels are striking except the GOP had just a slight, very slight, sense of decency then. That is gone now.

Elizabeth Warren is not my top choice in the Dem nomination race. However, she does write out her policy plans, and has gotten some things done in the Senate. She works.

All these decades in the Senate, Bernie has his name on only TWO minor, sponsored bills. He is either lazy or cannot influence enough of his Senate colleagues; or whatever he proposes, most Democrats don't embrace, let alone having any Republicans to concur.

Rhetoric without cost figures and how such will be paid, differs much from exhibiting a track record of expending elbow grease.

I wish Bernie would just fucking keel over and croak, already. The damage he’s doing is significant.

The problem or genius of the Republican Party is that they set things up to win either way.

If the House impeaches, their narrative is partisan WITCH HUNT!

If the House doesn't impeach it's "Look at these cowardly bottom feeders!"

And how get they the message accross? With their Republican owned media propaganda machine that needs to be consumed since people need to be informed or else they are *gasp* completely ignorant and clueless about what is going on in the world!

Today's most dangerous weapons aren't guns or bombs. It's the perversion of truth being sold as right wing narrative poisoning people's minds through the news media and social media.

[quote] If the House doesn't impeach it's "Look at these cowardly bottom feeders!"

The Right Wing News will not just stop there. They will try to make the Dems' response to Trump's and the GOP's crimes look weak and timid in order for the so called socialist Liberals to lose faith in the Democratic Party as viable and strong opposition to the Republican Party and Trump.

And who is prepped up as savior? Why, Bernie Sanders of course! Putin's other asset.

So turn off the noise! The biggest myth is that Trump and the Republicans have these millions and millions of supporters. They don't. The base shrunk. And it's getting smaller as the impact of Trump's chaotic economic policies are felt. The media needs to portray things as equal. They need to act as if the Republican Party is still viable. Otherwise who will spend money on TV ads? The media generates a lot of revenue from its inventions. We ought to be too damned busy to be preoccupied with the pundits, especially on the Right. TO the degree we are aware of their strategy and know what their goals are, we have an advantage, so build on that.

R296 is lying., The press and media never show the true size of the crowds who attend Trump rallies because they are GIGANTIC. Trump draws supporting audiences in the tens of thousands all over the nation. No Democrat has that kind of drawing power -- not Biden, not Pete, not Pocahontas.

You need to remove the blinders the media have foisted on you. Trump alone can pull in bigger crowds of supporters than all two dozen Democrats who are running in 2020 put together. Telling yourselves otherwise is setting yourselves up for defeat.

r296, IMHO we can't let the right wing news media "off the hook" with their "it's for the ratings" bullshit.

For now, what, three years we get bombarded with that "Deplorables are legion" narrative. So, for three years this legion of Deplorables turned right wing news and public speaking tours into a super profitable business? All I wanna do is quote Whitney Houston and say "Show Me The Receipts!" (not some fake ass ratings charts made by the very people who run these right wing business to attract the money). This is like some fake social media followers scam used by the Kardashians claiming that using them, for a heavy price, will get your product sold.

Why, hello there, TROLL, at R297. That is such a lie.

I am certain that a percentage of the deplorables at Dump's Hitler-like rallies are paid (whether it's compensation with meth and/or beer) to be there.

His crowds are smaller and the venues smaller and yes, many are given "incentives" and come from the pods of evangelicals and other jack-legged preachers who get money for it or deals like Franklin Graham, or local Republican party organizations. Some are employed by donors.

[quote]Trump draws supporting audiences in the tens of thousands all over the nation.

No, he doesn’t and that comes from first-hand witnesses. Paying people to attend and holding them in small arena does not exactly denote popularity.

Let's call them what they are: Actors. Most of these are actors who better get some risk of physical harm bonus for that gig.

And let us not forget that the 1% pays for all of this so they don't have to pay taxes themselves and receive money through entitlement programs for the uber wealthy.

Sorry, let us not forget that the 1% pay for all of this ...

I wish for all of those fucks who used the marginalized for their own selfish ends to have them turn on them....violently. It will happen and may take some time, but their Bastille Day is coming.

Fuck Bastille Day.

I'm ready for the Reign of Terror.

Personally I pray for Aliens. Or the almighty Almiqui to strike them all down.

You and I need to team up, r307, and roll those guillotines!

It's long overdue

I'll sharpen the blade.

I love how the same shrieking Queen has started 100 of these posts, mostly converses with itself, and can’t face the reality that Trump is here to stay and most likely will win a second term by a landslide.

But DO call your local congressman and tell them you’re so mad you could just spit!

R297, Where are the massive arrests of the Deep State that you said started this week?

BTW, I thought Hillary has been in chains since early 2017 with all of those various ankle, chest, neck monitors strapped to her body.

Fuck off R311 you fucking Trump apologist.

R311 should be tied over an ant hill with honey.

Trump is a criminal and he and his family needs to be in prison.

The trolls have been driven inside by the massive protests in Britain. Expect continued nonsense.

[quote] BTW, I thought Hillary has been in chains since early 2017 with all of those various ankle, chest, neck monitors strapped to her body.

I am sure some Q-Anon incels started a meme to make Hillary look like Princess Leia chained to Jabba the Hutt, but then thought that it could backfire and those damn Liberals would use it to mock Trump being overly fat and slimy.

I don't believe the narrative that "Trump and the GOP want Trump to be impeached". Trump would view it as embarrassing. It really all depends on the House Dem's ability to hold televised hearings and tell the story of how criminal Trump is. If they can get his finances this year and start sharing that, that will help too

If the NY AG charges more people connected to Trump this year that will also help

Remember McConnell's "end of thread" declaration? Trump and the GOP no longer want the Mueller report (and its findings) to be in the news since they see it as something that benefits the Dems shaping public opinion. They are so scared of Impeachment investigation and the hearings to be news media fodder up to the 2020 election that they even try reverse psychology. McConnell shutting down any plans of a serious trial in the Senate to convict if the House impeaches? He knows a non-conviction after the public believes the House impeachment investigation and hearings will kill them in the voting polls and make Putin's hacking even more obvious this time.

Republican strategists and maybe even Putin himself are like Littlefinger.

r297 You are obviously a stupid vodka addled troll from the hellscape that is Russia.

However, you aren't entirely wrong. Hate will always draw a crowd. The media, though, exaggerates his crowds to say they are larger than they are. He also buses them in from all over whatever particular state he is in but he does draw large crowds.

Hate is powerful and a shit show will draw crowds because, if you are inclined to that particular political persuasion, you will more likely show up than, say, a typical (insert any Dem or GOP candidate) stump speech.

Here is where you are wrong and you know it- he is not popular. His approval ratings have never been above 50% which is unprecedented. He is popular only with a every shrinking GOP base. The one thing holding him up is the economy. And even with it being great, thanks to Obama and the Dems, it doesn't get him above 45%. He is deeply hated and unpopular. He has to cheat to win. All conservatives do.

So, r297, you are a fucking dumb bitch, a troll and blocked. You will be mocked and laughed at.

r311 Oh my sides. Such a burn. You seem triggered, little bitch. What has gotten you so worked up, sugar tits? You seem to be projecting like your lord and master. I guess you like being lied to and denigrated you sick freak. Is it time for a vodka break?

Though I disagree with most of what he espouses, Bannon is largely about his unorthodox, perhaps warped "ideology". Trump is about personal and family "greed", and those of his wealthy cohorts. The manipulation of his base with inflammatory promises, and tossing them bones, is to sustain power. Bannon's ideology has clashed with Trump's greed. Yet, Trump listens to Stephen Miller, particularly on immigration and border policies. Miller is/was a protege of Bannon.

R318 exactly. The Democrats having all this information and possibly not impeaching him before the elections next year would be a gift. They want to be able to say the Democrats just teased impeachment but couldn't because "there was nothing there". Repub politicians and party members are STILL going on tv flat out LYING about what the Mueller report says. That is a clear sign that they don't want impeachment or the Mueller report to be further exposed to the public.

While I think Nancy is smart and careful, I really hope she does go through with impeachment in the next 6 months. It's not a good idea to bank on Democrats winning 2020. There's no guarantee.

All of these "patriots" like Mattis who supposedly took the jobs in order to help our country and steer this shit show in a better direction have said jack shit since they've left. Now most of the "adults in the room" have quit or have been fired they have a duty to lay out just how bad things are in the WH yet from most of them, nothing. All talk and no action.

It's scary how there are two Democratic sides here that constantly push the Republicans Want The Dems To Try Impeachment vs the Republicans are scared of Impeachment narratives.

I get that we all have different opinions but this is starting to sound like a script on both sides of that argument.

Like... trying to keep us gay Democrats divided and squabbling on the issue.

The Republicans in the Senate will not convict and remove Trump from office. Still, it is important to get all on record. Doing nothing is a terrible precedent.

Proceed with the impeachment inquiry. Witnesses resisting testifying need to be a part of the case for obstruction, and thus impeachment.

A new poll today shows support of impeachment is up to 41% from 37% the last time it was taken in May

and 76% Democrats

r325 It is straight from Russian division tactics.

They start with two legitimate arguments but ramp up the emotions so, instead of rational arguments we can agree to disagree, they make the arguments so intense we end up hating each other if we all don't agree. Both arguments have merit. The issue isn't trivial. So it is the perfect issue to divide the Dems on. The media, not just the usual conservative media, play it up because they will always bring into the conversation via some conservative pundit. Then it is, "Witch Hunt vs Weak, Ineffective".

They are also working the, "Socialist Dem solutions vs middle of the road (read corporate Dems)" narrative as well. "Socialist" solutions (in quotes because the word is toxic) are needed to right the inequality wrongs that cannot be fixed any other way vs the "middle of the road" (also in quotes because that is toxic) solutions because going hard to try to right every wrong is probably not politically feasible. Sensibly, some compromise will have to happen because neither way is acceptable in its entirety due to various reasons/obstacles.

I think the solution is keep the debates going but don't lose your shit if your argument doesn't win. We have got to play the long game. I realize some of our issues need addressing immediately but maybe the ones we be the most passionate about won't be addressed first or in the way we want. If we had played the long game, many of these issues would not be a critical mass.

The Dems should drag out the impeachment investigation and hearings and milk them for media publicity. Force the conservative media's hand and make them look foolish with their lack of reporting, deflection and what-about-isms.

FCI, I was talking about posters HERE using those argumentative divisive tactics. THIS thread. Just a handful of posts above my first one.

And they go back and forth, getting a little more hostile with each post. Eventually, you end up with one side trashing Pelosi while the other trashes the Pelosi trashers.

It's happening HERE.

Watching Donald and the Queen (my favorite '60s sitcom!) on CNN right now. He looks kinda stoned.

r331 I know that and I was addressing it. It is brought here and don't think Russian trolls aren't some of the ones ratcheting up the heat when posters go back and forth.

I'm not trashing Pelosi. It's ridiculous to say that because I'm concerned the Democrats might only be teasing impeachment that I'm "being divisive." We're allowed to disagree on stuff

listen if this all works out then it'll be water under the bridge. I'm just worried Democrats are going to be too cautious to do enough like in 2016. The repubs do not fucking care. They will spin whatever Democrats do or do not do

the media even RIGHT NOW is letting us down. They're so fucking obsessed with Trump that every station has "breaking news Trump is at Queen's dinner" and showing that stupid ceremony. I don't give a fuck about "royalty" nor do I want to see Trump bask in the "glory" of sitting next to Lizzie. The media should be talking about what's happening in the House this week with investigations and Trump admin continuously stonewalling

r334 But you bring up the tired and untrue bullshit the Dems didn't do enough in 2016. Candidates always have to make decisions based on internal polls and so many other facts. Unless you worked for Hillary you don't know what they were seeing, hearing on the ground in certain states. And even then, staffers often disagree. She was relying on so many people to give her the best information.

When you, or anyone, freak out over Pelosi or the Dems teasing impeachment you feed the divisive narrative. It is the language you (not you specifically) use that creates the problem. I saw it in 2016 when so much of the language about Hillary was suppressing. I saw posters on FB who hated Pres Bone Spurs turn hard core when he was the nominee. Very few of them didn't. I saw the same suppressing language, attitudes about Gore and Kerry when they were the nominees and I was 15 in the 2000 election. I remember wondering why so many people for him were so blah about him. Every time the other side does this, they lose. Beating up on Pelosi when you have NO IDEA what she is going to do is self-defeating.

I always find it interesting that hardcore liberal posters insist that the Dems, and Hillary, didn't do enough in 2016 and yet Hillary won the popular vote by almost 3 million votes.

"Hardcore Liberal posters" still posting this after we know about the Russia meddling and hacking makes me go "hmmmmmmmm" somehow.

What pisses me off is the MSM not even discussing how Russia attacked the election in 2016.

Not one peep about the Cyber hacking laid out in the Mueller report. Nor about the social media manipulation that was going on.

Why isn't one of those fluff morning shows talking about how to spot fake social media accounts? Or warning about fake social media accounts and the lies they spread? Because these fuckers are STILL actively attacking us and the media is ignoring it.

Many of these idiotic antivaxxers are known Russian or Chinese misinformation campaigns and yet I have heard nothing from the MSM about this continued attack on Americans.

Why is this being ignored?

Because it doesn't generate clicks, R338? Just a guess. The news is all about $$$.

r337 Hardcore liberal posters could fit the Bernie Bros. I am really getting nervous he is going to not fully endorse the Dem nominee like he didn't with Hillary. Dems need to play like the GOP, the extreme conservative wing gets behind whomever their nominee is because they aren't sufficiently pure enough. Yet, honestly, judges is the ballgame. We won't get anything passed if the GOP keeps the Senate but we will get some judges through.

r338 Absolutely! We were attacked hardcore yet it is treated like it was something on the level of a high school kid hacking into the high school to change his grades. Consequently, many don't see it as the huge issue it is. I've had people tell me this. They say if it were so big, it would be talked about nonstop almost like 9/11. Or the media truly thinks it is the duty of just the elected officials to sort out, not them. They do this about the entire Mueller report. They act like they can't come to a conclusion on anything.

^^^ meant to say "even though they aren't sufficiently pure enough for them"

R336 I'm an Obama and Hillary fan. When I said the Democrats didn't do enough in 2016, I know that McConnell threatened to make it partisan if they had released that statement saying the Russians were interfering. I get all that. I'm saying, and I know hindsight is 20/20, that the Democrats should have ignored McConnell and just done it. Let them spin it. My point is in this current era Democrats should no longer care what repubs threaten them with. No matter what they do, repubs will spin everything. Democrats can't have the same mindset as 2016. That's all I'm saying

and today there are some positive developments. We find out Nader has been arrested on child porn charges and the House is going to vote on whether Barr & Ross should be held in contempt.

Your use of the word "concerned" concerns me r34.

Mega church preachers & their flocks' way of dealing with the Mueller Report.

I agree with you R336. It is a futile effort to worry about Repubs would do. Dems need to start playing hardball. Who gives a fuck what R's think.

Sorry meant fro R342^^

r342 I agree 100% with this. Dems shouldn't care, and I really don't think they do.

-FCI

Seth's take on arrest of Mueller witness dirtbag George Nader on child porn charges.

Sadly I think this is punishment and silencing of yet another link to Trump and Russian interference. So just throw him in jail.

Early last fall, Trump did a political rally (supporting GOP Governor candidate) in W. Columbia, South Carolina at a high school gym. This is a moderately large metro area. I know the gym and it holds around 6,000 max. I later spoke to a couple of people that attended the event. It was less than 3/4 full. There were plenty of empty seats. They also mentioned there were non-local buses that unloaded people. They were political attendees from other areas/communities dawned in MAGA caps with signs/posters that entered in mass through a side door. Those buses did not have young kids or elderly travelers.

remember some of the Trump rally attendees are paid to be there. Some of the people who stand in the first row are the same ones over and over if you look at the various rallies. He likes to create an illusion that everyone loves him. That's bs

His rallies are laughable. He always makes sure he has a "Blacks for Dump" sign and others like it. Some people bring their young kids. I always wonder if they are the ones who bemoan our immoral world yet the things he says at his rally aren't PG-13 or lower.

The news just had a segment (NBC) about how the Chinese have so thoroughly scrubbed the 1989 uprising against the govt and how they continue to highly monitor their people for any mention of it. Some American developed a camera that can detect conversations from an unbelievable distance he sold to China. When asked if he had any qualms with what he did, OF COURSE he said no.

Why do the Chinese care to deny history? They fear another uprising and they have the numbers to do it. But to go to great lengths to do so? Is this our future for every country if conservatives get control? I can see the Holocaust being denied again and it is shameful Israel is in bed with so many of these conservative movements who have so much white nationalism behind them. It is surreal. Bebi Nettypot is a demon.

Money truly is the root of all evil.

Love it.

#SendLindseyHome

Mark Hamill agrees.

seen today in central London

Gotta have one for Lindsey too.

How much money can we raise to put a billboard up like this, but with a "#ByeLindsey" tagline and an unflattering picture of the Senator?

I don't suppose the dear Prince George could leave a toy or two on the stairs tonight.

and another one from London

[quote]How much money can we raise to put a billboard up like this, but with a "#ByeLindsey" tagline and an unflattering picture of the Senator?

Nothing a Kickstarter campaign can't do. I

[quote]and an unflattering picture of the Senator?

Noooo! Our pics of Miss Lindz must be pretty.

George Nader was arrested today. Child pornography. George helped Putin get Trump elected and has been in and out of the White House. He has spent time in prison for child molestation in an Eastern Block country.

Apparently Nader works well with Jared but not well with Eric Prince. He doesn't trust the murdering thug, Prince.

,,,and Jared does look like an adolescent.

Yeah and Seth's theory is truly chilling if true. He was arrested to further protect the dotard in chief.

Axios' Johnathan Swan's interview with Jared Kushner, looked so embarrassing for Kushner. It was apparent he is not experienced and competent enough to handle Middle East affairs. He also poorly handled other questions. Jared doesn't show any charm and wit, nor a strong command of international norms and legal and ethical parameters.. Kushner may be fine for focused, domestic technocrat tasks, but he's over his head with complex multinational dealings.

Sorry, but well DUH, r366.

Kushner comes off so poorly in the interview. It's really something, even for the Trump admin.

Trump faces giant 'USS John McCain' and Obama approval ratings projected onto London landmarks during state visit

Howard Dean just tweeted this: "Apparently the judge, Trevor McFadden, who ruled that trump could not be sued by House Dems over his executive order to fund his wall without congressional approval was a trump donor. Perhaps Justice Roberts would like to explain again how the American judiciary is not corrupt"

We need to make this go viral and force the mainstream media to cover it. This is incredibly important. This decision was rendered by someone who completely ignored the Constitution and invented a ridiculous interpretation of Congress's duties.

The whole USS John McCain thing would be a huge scandal in any other administration. First, they lie about. Second, it turns out to be true. Third, it shows a disturbing character trait no one should want in a president.

And 4th, R371, it shows how easily our military has been co-opted by this monster.

I think Seth Abramson just stumbled on to the missing link...we thought it was Cohen...but read this thread and see if suddenly it all makes sense.

As far as the internal dissension between the "impeach now" and "we can't impeach if we can't get him removed" parts of the Democratic party, I think the solution is to just realize that both of those things can be true simultaneously. Think of it this way, Pelosi and the Congressional Dems are on a pre-planned timetable. The Repugs know this too. That's why they are trying to fuck with it by obstructing. It is being timed out so that the investigation peaks late Spring/Summer of next year. He will be impeached but it won't go to the Senate until close to the election, if ever. Let's see McConnell deal with that in an election year.

I remember May ‘73 well, when the Watergate hearings were televised. I had just finished my sophomore year in high school. Impeachment was an unpopular option, but popular opinion changed quickly once the glare of the TV lights shone on those testifying about the criminal actions of our president and his henchmen. It’s amazing how fast the majority can change their minds.

It’s ludicrous to countenance Trump welcoming what will be a humiliating and dangerous experience for him.

r374 They don't want this dragged out and endlessly talked about. Either way, this is not good new for the GOP. The more it is dragged out, the more potential for shit to come out.

The GOP does not want this dominating the news no matter what SPIN and TALKING POINTS say otherwise.

1973, when we had 3 channels vs 2019 when we have millions of options? Does anyone think televised impeachment hearings will have the same effect?

R376, I don't think the Repugs want it dragged out for the sake of dragging it out. It is their only option in the House. They have no power except to obstruct. They are hoping it throws the Democrats into a powerless position. So far, it's working as far as witness testimony is concerned. That won't last.

r378 It won't last and only makes them look worse. The Dems have the upper hand no matter how much obstruction goes on. This looks bad for the GOP and him. Either way, the Dems have a drip drip drip of damning info coming out almost daily to the point I almost think the WH did the USS McCain shit to deflect. It is nonstop bad news for them. The Dems have the cards. The GOP have spin and talking points. Let them spin. It is all they have.

[quote]Doing nothing is a terrible precedent.

What are you even talking about, the House isn't 'doing nothing' R326!

The judiciary committee is investigating dozens and dozens of crimes, infractions, misdemeanors, breaches of Trump and his mobster kabal.

It is like some expected magical indictments and imprisonments as soon as Dems took over. Yeah, that was logical thinking. Like they wouldn't have to go through, IDK, procedures, rule of law and shit?

Since he is in the UK, it is sad and funny how he said one of the 2 women who would not date him was Princess Di. The other being Madonna.

Well, they had very bad, and very good, taste.

We are going to find out what America really is sooner rather than later. One party is lawless. The other is following the law. It's really hard to win a fight when the other side has no problem blatantly and cheerfully cheating. I'm honestly not sure what the outcome will be but I'm still glad I'm on the right side of history.

Trump Organization accused of evading taxes in Panama

Good news. We might just get him here. Some in Sweden were trying to block us by getting Assange first.

r383 I'm with you. I'd rather be with the party who is on the right side of history. I'd rather be with a party that is doing the right thing. It may not win (which is scary) but what other option do we have? Liberals won the last civil war and we would win another one. No doubt. They think they have all the weapons but 1)plenty of liberals have weapons, and 2) more people choose the right side. Like last time, we have the numbers on our side. Another Civil War would be another conservative slaughter.

I wonder what kind of impact Michael Wolff's new book Siege will have. He was promoting it on Lawrence O'Donnell's show. I hope it makes Trump flip out again as he tries to appear king-like on his UK trip.

A fashion critic takes a flamethrower to the fashion choices in Trumpco's state visit to the UK.

I've written this before. But I need to re-post it every once in awhile, late at night, to make myself feel better.

I don't want Trump impeached. I don't want Trump to be murdered. Both options are too good for him.

My fantasy is to kidnap him, tie him up, hold him hostage in my basement, and torture him on a daily basis. I'd set up a 24-hr video camera and live stream so the whole world can watch, and send in suggestions for what they'd like to see. I think it might get bigger ratings than The Apprentice.

Just take away all his money and any sort of audience.

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Can we stop calling it "pee" or "pee pee"?

It's piss. Fucking piss.

I go back and forth regarding what I want. Ultimately, I want him to go away, but it varies between death, imprisonment or just obscurity.

There aren't any piss tapes. Nellie Ohr, working for Fusion GPS, got a ham radio to communicate/collude with Russians in Moscow who gave hr bum info that she planted in the Steele Dossier.

The piss tape was a fabrication. Ohr didn't care if the info she received from her contacts in Russia was accurate or not. The Steele Dossier was opposition research - in other words, it was mud to fling during a campaign, not facts upon which to base a serious investigation. Everyone knew all along that no piss tape ever existed.

The real scandal is that the Mueller probe was based almost entirely on the Steele Dossier and the dossier was known to be false even before the probe began.

Manafort’s on his way to solitary confinement in Rikers.

George Aref Nader, who was a key witness in special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation, was arrested on child pornography charges Monday in New York, federal prosecutors announced Monday.

Nader was arrested upon arrival at John F. Kennedy International Airport for "transporting visual depictions of minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct."

[QUOTE]The real scandal is that the Mueller probe was based almost entirely on the Steele Dossier and the dossier was known to be false even before the probe began.

You out yourself as a complete and total troll with this line. For the 8,000th time, the Steele Dossier was not the origin of the Mueller probe. Jesus.

Special counsel Robert Mueller has been getting the help of George Nader, a Lebanese-American businessman with ties to Arab royalty in his investigation into alleged foreign influence in the Trump presidential campaign, Mueller’s team is looking into the possibility of a back channel between the Kremlin and the Trump transition team.

Photos being circulated around social media show Mueller’s new star witness in the Trump investigation partying on an exclusive island resort with Bill Clinton.

R397, Declassification is coming this week or next. The origins of the Mueller probe will be revealed by that.

[quote]The real scandal is that the Mueller probe was based almost entirely on the Steele Dossier and the dossier was known to be false even before the probe began.

[quote]You out yourself as a complete and total troll with this line. For the 8,000th time, the Steele Dossier was not the origin of the Mueller probe. Jesus.

Not to mention that most of the dossier has subsequently proven to be true.

No, R400, the dossier is not true at all. Even the NY Times says as much.

The Steele Dossier was supposed to be opposition research for use during the 2016 campaign. It was not used until after the election because it was so unverifiable, even the liars at CNN didn't dare promote its contents.

Why was Bill Clinton partying on Epstein Island with George Nader, who was arrested this week for child pornography?

Love when a troll has to admit he loves the NYT r401.

Fascinating that blocked-Boris spreading disinformation at R401 is also spreading whataboutism (plus disinformation) at R403 (and no surprise that both techniques were polished by the Kremlin.

r398...are you really that stupid ?....its been proven that the George Nader in the picture with Clinton IS A DIFFERENT GEORGE NADER.

r406. That doesn't matter to them. They deliberately spread these lies to make idiots, who don't know any better, believe this. You corrected it this time. They will repeat the lie later and hope nobody will bother to challenge it then. Like the claim Trump won because Hillary wasn't popular enough (she won the popular vote).

Nice try, R406. They are one and the same.

r408....too stupid to live.

[quote]Like the claim Trump won because Hillary wasn't popular enough (she won the popular vote).

She is popular wherever there are tons of illegal immigrants. She is unpopular in vast areas of the USA. Even the Democrats preferred a black man with a Muslim-sounding name to Hillary in 2008.

Illegals can't vote. These votes came from legal citizens.

Obviously the Nader news is touching a nerve with the trolls....and it should...he is at the center of the entire Russian scandal. Pay attention people...what weve been waiting for is about to bust through...and its going to be delicious.

Yes, R411, those votes came from people who are either related to illegals or who want their states to be flooded with illegals. Hillary is popular in states that are full of anti-white racists. She is less popular in the nation over-all. Luckily our founding fathers had the foresight to come up with a system to elect the President that requires a candidate to be popular all over the country, not just in three or four highly populous states.

Nader is going to flip on the Clintons,. R412. They are the ones who are nervous.

Woah, the trolling is strong right now. Must be something really good coming.

The trolling is so blatant. It’s almost fascinating to watch in real-time.

Is George Nader the one that said “Russia will help get our boy elected POTUS” in an email? Or it was something like that.

Barr unsealed the indictment against Nader to blackmail him into keeping quiet...he had an immunity deal with Mueller for the last few years...were one step away from impeachment and suddebly they are going after THE key witness who was at the center of the scandal ?....and Assange...not being charged with the CIA leak, but being charged under the espionage act...which WILL NOT stand up in court. Someone is trying to either silence them or discredit them. I wonder who ?

r417...that was Felix Sater...another one of "the best people"

Trump is the one who is dragging it out. It's his style. He has been in litigation, lawsuits, etc. for 45 years, as it was pointed out by some legal analysts on MSNBC the other night. His constant, go-to strategy is delay. It's what he does. But I'm not so sure the GOP agrees with the Delay tactics. Both the Republicans and the Dems have their own scenarios doped out and they both have a strategy.

I'm not so sure hearings would be effective as they were in the 70's. I was 12 and remember my mother was riveted to the TV. But this White House has blocked people from Testifying, they have withheld documents, they have ignored subpoenas, and now they are even defying court orders. There was a flow and there was some continuity with the Watergate hearings, but here it starts, it stops, there are postponements, delays, etc.

Now things were not that smooth in '73. They had to keep going to court to force the Nixon guys to turn over evidence. This might sound odd, but even though Nixon and his people broke the law, they knew they were breaking laws and actually had respect for the rule of law. Many of them actually feared being charged with a crime or going to prison.

This crowd around Trump act like career criminals and mobsters who do not give a fuck and have no respect for the rule of law. They truly believe they're above the law. You have Trump, Barr, McConnell and Graham and they believe this is all political warfare and games and they do not care about the rules. They're all about tactics. Undermine and weaken Pelosi, divide the Democrats, frustrate the voters, and win back the House. That's the Republican plan.

I think voters are frustrated. I think if they could see some drama, some result, some muscular, robust action from the Democrats they'd quiet down. Impeachment without removal is an empty gesture we cannot afford, and there is absolutely nothing including a nuclear explosion, that will move McConnell. Nothing.

So romanticizing the effectiveness of the hearings is not realistic. And the American public will not rise up, and even if they do, it won't matter to McConnell. The Republicans will effectively use an Impeachment action as a political hit job, and they will strengthen support among the voters. So this is a double edged sword.

My Prescription, is the Democrats have to toughen up: Stop extending deadlines. If you tell Mnuchin you want the tax returns, and he delays and stalls, ignoring subpoenas, etc. DO SOMETHING. If the Dems ask for a report from Barr and he delays and tells them what he will not give them, DO SOMETHING. If McGahn cites Executive Privilege DO SOMETHING.

The problem is the Democrats are like fucking Chamberlain in WW II. They're still negotiating with people they cannot trust. They have to go to war. They have to be muscular. Them the people will really understand, instead, they're giving the impression of weakness, of appeasement, of rolling over. So the style and the tactics have to change. The road leading up to Impeachment ought to be a bit stronger than it is right now, because the Dems are acting like they're not really up to it.

Because thats the way criminals work...prolong, delay and deflect. If he were innocent, he would want it over as soon as possible and wouldnt be challenging everything.

W&W f or R418. That is exactly what's happening. Thank you. Brilliant analysis.

Why didn't Mueller ask Steele to testify? It looks like Mueller didn't really want to know anything about the Steele dossier.

As I understand it, R418, Nader was outside of the country, and outside the reach of U.S. process, until he unexpectedly returned, apparently for medical reasons, and was taken into custody at the D.C. airport. If Barr had wanted Nader kept quiet, the better course of action would have been NOT to unseal the indictment, and simply let him leave the country again. Or so I would think.

but r424, putting him in jail for this shuts him up and shuts him off from society. And he can't be trusted since he is a perv/sex offender.

THRow that whore home wrecking Hope Hicks in jail! She should get the chair for crimes sgainst make-up too!.

It's Tuesday and Bill and Hillary are still walking free, flying around the world with no constraints.

It's amazing how Hillary has time to try to help save our environment while at the same time running her p e do ring out of a basement below a pizza shop.

When is her arrest scheduled, QAnon whackjob?

oh r427, give it up. No one is buying your bullshit. How's Russia this time of year?

Do you know how to READ, R428?

Apparently the guy next to Bill Clinton is some art dealer with the same name.

Meh

At this point those right wing nutters should know that their lame conspiracy stunts are being debunked in no time.

Spin, spin, spin, trollinas!

You can't comprehend that my post at R427 was making fun of our QAnon lunatic troll here???

It is a BIG Fucking deal that Manaforts going to Rikers and that the State of NY is now getting set to go forward on their case against him, which once again, Trump will not be able to pardon him from if convicted. Conditions at Rikers are so notorious they are having to put him in Solitary for his own safety. We KNOW how delicate he was while awaiting proceedings for the Federal charges ( citing multiple health conditions etc) how long do we seriously think he is going to last in that hell- hole before he cracks?

I wake up (I'm on vacation from work) and the trolls are out in force. I loved seeing so many blocked posts. It means I got them all for now.

Trolls, so fucking stupid to try their bullshit on DL.

Rikers is what Trump is facing and he is shitting himself. He will do anything...ANYTHING....to stay out of jail. The Presidency affords him protections.

But on another topic, PLEASE PAY ATTENTION: Trump and the people behind him, are already going after their "enemies." A lot of lawsuits, a lot of bad luck, prosecutions, etc. If he gets re-elected, it will be all out war on anyone he sees as his enemy. And the Republicans are good at that game. So at the state level people are going to be intimidated, investigated, smeared, prosecuted and spied on. It will be the Police State made real. This man cannot stay in the White House. He must be removed because he is a complete threat to our national security and our democracy. This is not some difference in philosophy, this is serious. It will be the corporate police state. So we have to focus on how we remove him from office. We can't afford to give him any advantage.

The traitor manafort is really in rikers?

I am LMAO! This is the best news!

Yulia tymoshenko is laughing at that pathetic coward!

I love Letitia James. She is the only one who can prosecute these people. Even if the Democrats win the 2020 Presidential elections, I'm not sure the new administration would go through with prosecuting their predecessors. Even though that SHOULD happen given the nature of the crimes, the repubs, Fox and possibly independents/centrists will claim that Democrats are "breaking precedent"

Sending Manafort to Rikers sends a message to a lot of people. If you have a choice between Federal prosecution and State of NY, baby, pick the Federal prosecution. Absolutely. And make a deal with the feds to drop all state charges or something like that. Because I know for a fact Michael Cohen is thanking God every day that he is not in Rikers.

I swear I'll be out of the country six months from now and I'll still read US headlines like "House considering charging Barr with perjury", "House renews rounds of threatened subpoenas, adding 'We really mean it. C'mon guys this is serious!"

well Manafort didn't want to cooperate so fuck him.

and fuck the liberals on social media saying Rikers should be closed. I understand the prison has a negative history but people like Manafort deserve to go there. No mercy for that piece of shit. I love that his hair dye has run out too

Washington Post: White House instructs Hope Hicks, former McGahn aide not to comply with congressional subpoenas

Outright obstruction, in your face obstruction, obvious obstruction. Impeach this motherfucker JUST FOR THIS ^^^^^

I understand the Democrats want to go through all the standard procedures but how many more are there? Clearly the WH is not going to let anyone testify or hand over documents so just hold them in contempt. All this "let's vote to have a vote if they should be held in contempt" is silly at this point. Just do it. and open up the inquiry for impeachment.

Hold them in contempt and jail them all for doing it. Get the information out to the American public about what they've already done and why these acts of arrogant obstruction are impeachable. Enough of this tyranny!!!!

Hicks is NOT going along with Trumps instructions....sh has notified the House that she will turn over records from the campaign. The question will be...Whats missing from these documents ?

Hope Hicks should do Chicago on Broadway as Roxie Hart.

R446, she has that hard, Ann Reinking look, doesn't she?

I think, R445, that most of her records are going to be emails and texts, which are very hard to obliterate.

[quote]Conditions at Rikers are so notorious they are having to put him in Solitary for his own safety. We KNOW how delicate he was while awaiting proceedings for the Federal charges ( citing multiple health conditions etc) how long do we seriously think he is going to last in that hell- hole before he cracks?

This made me smile R433.

My guess would be that if Hopes is cooperating she's only going to hand them over what Dotard wants her to. I don't buy that she'd go against their commands.

Given who she worked for she probably fucks it up and hands them the USB drive of data she wasn't supposed to hand over and hides the paper trail she was supposed to hand over in her pussy.

Hope H. has a track record of sexual affairs with married men with young kids; then there are the physical women abusers among the same. Then the Fox organization gives her a grand job after leaving the WH. The media covered her as if she was the most loyal employee that kept Trump under control and focused. Maybe so in some regards, but much of the scandalous activity happened while she was with Trump.

Some scoop from my contacts- The WH and congressional GOPers are threatening a whole host of nasty things they are going to do if the Dems don't stop "going after" Pres Bone Spurs. One thing already done is McConnell not honoring the blue slip for Senators concerning judicial nominees.

They are all weighing really damaging policies that he can do through executive actions. Really damaging shit. She won't give me specifics until I meet up with them in DC late next week. She said this is not deterring the Dems but it is frustrating them because the GOP does not care who they hurt. She said it is getting UGLY (all caps) because there are so many in the GOP who will be caught up in this mess. Like bringing down the party bad but they will do horrible shit for that not to happen. The Dems are working on getting some to flip. They really feel Don M will testify and spill but he is so partisan he wants to protect the GOP, not Pres Bone Spurs. She stressed that the reason so much of this has not collapsed on him yet is because they want the Dems to protect the GOP. Many are ready to take him down. The Dems are a hard no on protecting the GOP and they know the GOP wants the narrative of "Look, the Dems took down our President" which will keep blood off their hands and energize the base against the Dems. She said, strangely enough, no major news outlet wants to touch any of this for now. One is there isn't any real hard evidence, yet. So it would look like the media is going after the GOP. This is why they are going after the media's credibility so hard.

I told you all there was so much going on behind the scenes I just needed her to clear up a few things for me so I could share.

It was a really quick phone call. I hope this makes sense. I'm on vacation and I am partying it up so I've had a few mixed drinks. :)

Thanks for the update, FCI. Looking forward to more!

Makes perfect sense, fCI, and thank you for sharing.

We ALL know the GOP is full of traitors and the MSM is afraid to touch them.

Guess I will start calling those rethugs I'm stuck with and demand they put the country first. Not that it will do much good but it will let them know someone is watching and paying attention to their lies.

R452 The destruction of the GOP couldn't come fast enough!

Oh, and my contact said Nancy and the Dems have a great strategy but they are navigating carefully because, as I highlighted above, they do not want there to be too much collateral damage. But I was proud they are holding firm about NOT protecting the GOP.

This is what Nancy is weighing - bring down Pres Bone Spurs and protect the enabling traitors in the GOP OR take the longer road (the one which the IMPEACH NOW crowd will not like), let all the damaging info keep drip drip dripping out every day, let the momentum build for impeachment inquiry (she said it WILL happen) because public opinion is starting to warm to impeachment, yet this means the GOP will do some terrible things that will hurt many but in the end, more traitors will be purged.

[quote]I told you all there was so much going on behind the scenes I just needed her to clear up a few things for me so I could share.

All of that is going on openly for everyone to see. It's all over Twitter. There's nothing "behind the scenes" about this.

These are same revelations as Judd Legum, Seth Abramson, etc., and others Tweet about all day every day.

R458 is the same talking points regurgitated here in this thread all day every day about Nancy and IMPEACH NOW vs. Drip Drip Drip.

Absolutely no scoop there whatsoever.

Yeah, FCI, you’re getting all uppity on our asses.

Yeah, the inside scoop is always like that. Generally just stuff that has already openly been talked about. I seem to recall FCI saying he doesn't give scoops but his contact just confirms things.

What I'm not getting is a sense of what the House CAN do to people who just openly defy it and defy the courts, if those people have the Executive Branch on their side. Who exactly arrests those people? Who does anything practical to them? What about fines? Who enforces those fines and starts actually garnishing pay or whatever? Any insights from FCI, or anyone who knows, would be appreciated.

Thank you FCI, R458. I really do like Nancy's strategy. I like that slow drip, drip, drip. An example. I have a major dental appt. next month. It's something I knew I had to do for a while now, but kept putting it off because it troubles me. But, it's been on my mind and has caused me a lot of anxiety on a daily basis. I do know that once I get it over with, I will be relieved. That's what I think it's like for Trump. That anxiety of the anticipation of something horrible you know is going to eventually happen can really drive a person crazy.

[quote]Any insights from FCI, or anyone who knows, would be appreciated.

Go read Seth Abramson on Twitter and you'll get more insights than anything here.

THANK YOU FCI!

Lindz is having the daily interview with Sean Hannity. There must be genuine, mutual attraction.

I see I can never please the naysayers and I never claim to have earth-shattering news. So, please go back and read what I tell you and acquire some reading comprehension skills. Again, I never say I have scoop no one knows and I never hype it up. I do, mainly, confirm things though I have given huge scoops in the past, though 90% of that was about Aaron Schock. I did say there were pic of LG with a boy who, in some states, would be considered underage just not in the state the pic was taken. That will come out. I didn't know it was common knowledge the GOP would get rid of him (and are trying to make deals) in order to save the party nor did I know they were weaponizing policy to the extent I was told.

To those who appreciate my "scoops', you're welcome. I always try to get info you will find useful either something you knew but needed confirmation or maybe stuff you haven't read ( I don't read the Seth Abramson ). I could always make shit up and with the shit storm going on it would probably turn out truthful 50% of the time.

Can't please everyone I suppose.

Thank you, FCI! Some of believe!

I've always believed that there is significant amounts of shit going on behind the scenes. And God knows there's potential for this to get hella ugly this summer.

But I believe the House will prevail, hopefully before the GOP burns the whole place down.

Those Trumps are rather uncouth.

Thank you, FCI. Forme the most important thing you said is that the Republicans are going balls out, on a path of total destruction and do not give a fuck about anyone. That's important. Because as despicable as I know they all are I keep hoping that once the hearings begin and the shit gets exposed, some of them will come to their senses. I never expected Graham and McConnell to, but I hoped others might. Of course they talk big, but they are a cowardly lot so I have to wonder how far some of them are willing to go. Because there will be consequences. They have to live in our world every day. And they won't be getting a lot of support out here. WE need the Media to really go for it. Because there can be no "both sides" no "balance" no false equivalencies. If they break the law they have to be held to account this is not about "differing opinions." This is about Right & Wrong, about our Constitution. WE need tough investigative work. We need to rip the covers off sloppy judges who have been compromised like the asshole who just said Congress couldn't sue Trump for taking their money and using it for the wall. His reasoning was so sloppy it begs the question of whether he has ever read the Constitution. He was a Trump donor and a Trump appointed judge. They need to appeal his ruling and go to the wall.

The trolls were out in full force this morning and now silence.

Will they be back tomorrow morning?

Dotard sure loves things that mark its territory.

Also, I love the dumb troll that keeps coming in here squealing how the Pee Pee tapes don't exist.

But the basement in the pizza parlor totes did!

The Qanon lunatics told us 60,000 members of the Deep State would be in Gitmo by now.

Something tells me that hasn't happened yet.

The blatant lying about Princess Meg about calling her nasty followed in one day by "my crowds were very large. Very large. I saw no opposition at all. Just very large crowds supporting us." The lying is beyond pathological. This is in serious mental illness level. I don't even buy gaslighting at this point. The facts are crystal clear and he just goes out and lies with no hesitation. EVERYONE around him, not to mention everyone in the world, should be scared shitless he can lie so brazenly to everyone. How can anything he says be trusted? I'm looking at you, his allies, his enablers. This man is not well. We have never had a President so brazenly lie about things so provably to be lies. I almost wanted to laugh at this presser today but it made me sick to my stomach. He is mentally ill. Even a sociopath would know to hide it better. This is end of world dangerous.

Hes also attacking Bette Midler on twitter...hes getting eviscerated.

Hope Hicks in the cards.

"She's in the mix."

thanks for your insight FCI

notice how Barr is willing to negotiate now though with the threat of contempt. Clearly he doesn't want that stain on his record. I hope the House eventually does do it though. He deserves it

[quote]The trolls were out in full force this morning and now silence.

That’s because the vodka just kicked in.

I love how Barr's answer to whether he's worried about the fact that he's ruined his formerly good reputation by climbing so far up Trump's ass is, "Well, everyone dies..."

R477 any day! Any day!!!

[quote]So turn off the noise! The biggest myth is that Trump and the Republicans have these millions and millions of supporters. They don't.

That's why Trump is gambling on Russia's social media propaganda manipulation and hacking voting machines again. There are several bills that got bipartisan support in the house and even the senate that would eliminate the threat of meddling - paper ballots, secure savers, election oversight committee ... Trump, Barr and McConnell are blocking those bills because they know without Russia's help, Trump will not win in 2020 and very likely would not have won in 2016.

FCI, you're a lot of fun when you've been drinking. Have one on me! :)

Worth pointing out that the same people get bused from Trump rally to Trump rally as well.

so anyone going to answer my questions at r464? Anyone? Bueller? What exactly are the House of Representatives powers when the Executive decides to be a total cunt about everything?

But who's paying them, R487? We know Dotard never pays his employees.

Look. remember when Feinstein defied her chairman, and,as the ranking Democrat on the committee she released a transcript of some testimony against his wishes? That's the kind of muscular defiance I want to see. If the House leaders show some balls and toughen up then they will quiet all these calls for "Impeachment Now." Nancy said this and I have also found it to be true. She said most people do not understand what Impeachment is. They believe that if the House impeaches Trump he will be gone. So she is trying to raise awareness and understanding.

R487, they're getting paid in rubles.

most people have no clue what the House can and cannot do. That includes pretty much everyone on this thread. What are the actual powers? Nancy might know? Do we? Right now it's a dingbat revolution. What will it take to actually get to the stage where Democrats have an actual plan?

FCI, this is actually one of those moments when you can actually shed some light on this bullshit. What are the actual powers of the House of Representatives?

Remember, the Dems have only been in power for four months. I think people forget that. The shitstorm is coming and it's all falling on Trump.

haven't forgotten that, r494, would really like to know the steps, from A to B to C. How exactly does Trump get removed?

Democrats actually used to be good at this shit. Lyndon Johnson could fuck over anyone he felt like. We just seem like we lost that somewhere along the way. Let's try to figure out how we fuck over the assholes, once again.

The next step is the courts. People will be forced to testify. Those 12 redacted Mueller-based cases connected to the Russia investigation are still all on-going. The New York cases are starting with all the discovery and evidence they'll be making public without Trump/Barr interference. The Counter-Intelligence investigation into Trump is still on-going. I don't think the heads of the CIA and FBI are going to go along with Trump's and Barr's wishes that they put themselves in contempt when they are called to testify.

And, all of this will still not lead it his removal due to the overwhelming corruption in the Repug Senate. So, your answer, R495, is that it will probably take the 2020 election to get rid of them.

and when they say, fuck you to the courts, what next. what exactly happens here.

r493 Congress has three types of contempt charges they can bring. Most of them can get stopped by the Executive branch or DOJ. They can even stop grand juries from being convened and can stop the courts or drag it out due to the Executive or DOJ assert executive privilege. From there, it can be drug out for years. It doesn't have to take that long, though.

Essentially our Constitutional system is being tested and so far, it is failing. We need huge reforms. I'm sure there are some obscure rules they can invoke.

that is honest, and appreciated, FCI. Everyone is dicking around, but I don't think you are.

Thanks, FCI, I appreciate your reports as well. I don't know what else I could read that could tell me what you have. Be kind to your noggin the rest of the night, okay?

The House has the power to arrest people themselves. They just haven't had to use it in a long time. They will have to use it again.

FCi it's not only Trump lying about things that are easily false by watching the news lol. I saw a clip on Fox today of that stupid "The Five" show and they were ganging up on Juan Williams again. It was about the protests. The other 4 were acting like it was just a small group of protesters "of many different causes not all about Trump". They were also saying that the royals loved meeting the Trumps and that he's on his best behavior

never mind the toilet Trump doll, the 10s of thousands of protesters (who have multiple causes because Trump offends many different groups of people) and the fact that Meghan Markle (and others) declined meeting Trump for the dinners and of course the spat with the London mayor

so they keep covering for Trump's lies

Have faith in our wonderful group of Dems we elected in 2018, friends. Along with the veterans, they are all using all resources to get these fuckers to fry for what they are doing. And it looks like Barr already wants to make deals. It won't be easy but the Dems have a lot of dirt to drip drip drip every day to make the GOP lives miserable.

Despite our system failing, our people won't. Whether you know it or not, the Dem reps and their staffers are winning this. They just don't have the conservative loud mouth media machine behind them.

There's a podcast called "What Trump Can Teach Us About Constitutional Law" that I highly recommend. The most recent episode covered Congressional Contempt. They explain that there are three types of contempt Congress can charge:

1. Criminal Contempt - Congress can refer the contempt charge to the DOJ to prosecute. That's unlikely to occur, especially with this DOJ.

2. Civil Contempt - Congress can ask the courts to enforce its subpoenas and compel people to testify and/or produce documents. This can be a long, drawn-out process

3. Inherent Contempt - Congress can jail or fine someone they hold in contempt. That hasn't been done in over 80 years because Congress doesn't have the facilities and personnel to effectively arrest someone.

I love all our delightful new Democrats, and love, and joy, and cherries on top. What exactly can the House do to make all these fantasies happen? Could everyone stop lying about shit and stop pretending they know things they do not know?

r505 Civil contempt- The Senate can authorize a lawsuit but there is not a similar statute that applies to the House. However, federal district court in Washington, D.C. has decided that the House can authorize its committees to bring a civil suit for enforcement of a subpoena.

It can still be blocked by the Executive branch and DOJ, I believe.

FCI, you are seriously starting to get on my last nerve. What the fuck can the House do? Anything?

r506 You're an asshole and not a good one.

r509 You're an asshole as well. You've been given a lot of info but because you aren't getting easy to please answers (you've been told THERE ARE NONE) you attack other posters who are giving you information. Get laid, take your meds and fuck off.

eh, maybe you are right r510. I'm not always pleasant. Maybe there are no easy answers. Maybe we just have to accept, we don't know what to do about this shit.

Which is why the fucking Senate is so important. Because many years ago I worked for a U.S. Congressman, I can support FCI's assertion that there's a whole lot going on behind the scenes. In both Houses. The fact that the Democrats have only been in power for 4 months, including a 30 day shutdown seems to escape a lot of members of the public. I think we need to push the media and individual reporters to start focusing on the Senate. After reading what FCI's just posted you can really appreciate how important the Senate is in this whole mess. This is really about the Constitution and the laws that flow from it. But it is also about the Rules that each house of Congress makes. The House needs the sharpest lawyers they can find to staff this effort. Remember the words of the immortal General Hannibal when he invaded Italy: "I will find a way, or I will make one."

The Senate is Iowa farmers and Idaho survivalists and assholes spread out all over this fucking piece of shit country. I think the Senate might not be the best option for progressives.

interesting how repubs seem to be drawing the line at the Mexico tariffs idea lol

r513 Yet Iowa elected 3 of 4 Dems to the House, narrowly lost the 4th in an ultra-red district served by the Grand Wizard Steve King. So, those farmers are getting fed up. Their culture is to distrust liberals not realizing in all aspects of their lives, they would be better off with liberal policies.

fair enough, r515

R511, believe me, we ALL share your frustrations about this crime kkklan and the shit they get away with.

If you want to do something, call your rep and senators and tell them what you think. It may not be much but if they hear from some of their pissed off constituents, they might grow a spine or at least shut their lying mouths (depending on if they are repug or Democrats).

You can also write letters or send postcards. I send postcards to turtle telling him he's a traitor. Fuck him. That's how I vent my frustrations.

I'm considering going all guerilla war on these fuckers by randomly hanging signs from over passes or random yard signs on the freeways.

Why not. Fuck these traitors.

Idaho is a lost cause, though. Iowa is a purple state that really wants to be blue.

One thing I have told my contacts and they agree, and for now, the Dems agree, is that the GOP must not get away with this. They have egregiously betrayed our Constitution, our rule of law, truth. There has to be severe consequences for all involved including those like Zuckerburg. Cast the net far and wide. I'm with the guillotine guy. Seriously. We were brought to the brink over greed and power. We would really be a beacon of hope to the world if we rounded up all the corrupt criminals, far and wide, and this ended in prison and lives.

You don't fuck with our democracy and get a slap on the wrist.

Oh I know it, r518. I just don't know what to do. We need a damn plan, and I don't know what that plan would be. I just don't know. Anyone have a plan? that would be a treat. Til then, let's play this old song from an ole movie that the younguns don't care about anymore:

yeah, that would be awesome FCI. That would be nice.

Trump Jr. and Other Aides Met With Gulf Emissary Offering Help to Win Election

This is an article from last year highlighting the connection Nader-Trump and some shady deals

FCI - just curious. Do you believe that Putin was successful in actually hacking the vote tallies in a few states, thus literally giving Trump the election? And that all the other stuff was just noise? A few have posted theories that sound very plausible. Thanks.

Question: Considering how long Mitch and company dragged their feet on getting a new Supreme Court justice in, what would happen if the Senate suddenly flipped? This wouldn't likely happen, but remember when there was that mild train accident with the members of Congress (last year?). Suppose something serious happened to the point of taking out a substantial amount of Republicans. I know their seats would still have to be appointed, but could Schumer be like, "Ha-ha, fuckers, I'm in control now!"

r523 100%. No doubt. At all. And congressional Dems AND GOP know it.

Again, it is proving it but we know they got into the voting machines. We know it. Why would they and do nothing? As people have said on here, it was around the exact same time on election night 2016 that all the key states, plus FL, when they hit 50% returns, suddenly saw a jump to him.

There is ZERO doubt Russians changed votes in his favor. And it is just like Putin to do it in a squeaker to keep his dog on a leash.

Why else would Trump, Barr and McConnell block every fair voting act?

If Put Put's goal is to disrupt the system, then he'd be wise to switch votes for a Dem candidate in 2020 so Deplorables can scream fixed and Democrats can say, oh well, and follow Dotard's precedence and block everything they want.

DjT did not want to see the naval carrier, the USS John McCain.

Would he feel the same about the "Cocaine Mitch" cargo ship, the Ping May?

since McConnell won't cooperate, why don't Democrats go after him HARD? Go after the corruption with his wife Elaine and the corruption with the Russians investing in Kentucky. Remind the public of all the lies he's told and the hypocrisy. Hit him hard. Repubs successfully used Pelosi in their attack ads during the Obama years. Why don't Democrats do the same to McConnell since he actually deserves it? He's actually lucky Trump takes up so much attention. A lot of casual voters don't even know who he is. They should.

Democrats have got to get on top of out-messaging and out-attacking repubs. Don't let them keep setting the narratives

[quote]Which is why the fucking Senate is so important.

Which is why the Russians kept the Senate red during the 2018 blue wave. That weird shit where tons of Floridians voted to let felons vote (progressive) but voted for the Repugs for Governor and Senate. Uh huh. That disenfranchisement of the of the Native American population in North Dakota was done to help cover the fraudulent vote. And, Hawley? No fucking way.

FL was an egregious show of force of a hacked election. No way we lost Gov and Sen. No way. No way in hell. GA was another. Abrams KNOWS votes were changed. McCaskill won, as well. Donnelly won, too. Heidi did not. I'm not sure if the NA suppression would have been enough.

Also, Beto won. Voters in TX reported numerous times all over the state how all the end of the ballot, their Senate votes switched but not the others.

FUCKERY

There used to be a post that would be posted in every thread after the 2016 election about proof of voter tampering. Where is it?

Democratic Pundits on Cable News keep warning that "everybody" (meaning Republicans) should be concerned and do everything they can do fix our election issues because the Russians tilt it to the other side next time. Right! I think Putin never dreamed our GOP would be as cooperative with him as they've been. He's staying put for awhile. Duh!

On the other hand, China - are u reading this? (with help from Bill Maher and Hillary).

[quote]Don't let them keep setting the narratives

Yep, that's the key. Why that isn't happening or is not enough happening is probably because the media is bought. Not just the typical right wing media, the NYT, NBC, some lefties media outlets all were rallying against Hillary Clinton in 2016.

Putin has a lot of money to bribe some journos, so have some shady middle eastern dictators.

Seriously... China are you hearing this. Write in ballots overwhelmingly put Hillary into office in 2020!

Funny, one way Hillary probably could finally take office - promise Deplorables that once she becomes President she can finally be arrested!

Uh why would he be concerned that Tiffany would join the Peace Corps or the Army?

[quote]If Put Put's goal is to disrupt the system, then he'd be wise to switch votes for a Dem candidate in 2020

Putin doesn't want a democratic president who will try his/her best to strengthen NATO, EU, and overturn citizen united. Once a democrat sits in the WH, the mobsters have to hush up and leave the country.

[quote]More than anything, the prenup shows how fiercely Trump wanted to protect the money he did have. Maples reportedly wanted $25 million, but Trump agreed to pay her only $1 million if they separated within five years, plus another $1 million to buy a house. Trump also would stop making $100,000 child support payments for Tiffany when she turned 21. The agreement states that Trump’s payments would cease earlier if Tiffany got a full-time job, enlisted in the military, or joined the Peace Corps. “The way it was drawn up is ironclad and shows how wary he was,” Felder told me after reviewing the prenup. “He was leaving nothing to chance.”

[quote]Putin doesn't want a democratic president who will try his/her best to strengthen NATO, EU, and overturn citizen united. Once a democrat sits in the WH, the mobsters have to hush up and leave the country.

Don't be so sure about that. Depends on how one defines, "democratic."

BTW today is the 30th anniversary of Tienanmen Square.

[quote]The president is participating in an event to commemorate the 75th anniversary of D-Day in a few hours but, before that, he's tweeting attacks at Bette Midler in the early hours of the morning.

Bernie, you are not a democrat!

He's running on adderall, r544.

No, R545, but you dumb bitches will let him run on your ticket... again!

Im noticing a bunch of morons on my FB feed talking about how Obama is about to be arrested. Must be the new Russian talking point.

Bernie is completely losing momentum isn't he?

He's still right Biden, but I believe his numbers have dipped a little.

So basically old white guys are still who people prefer.

R549 it's always their talking point. At least between the hours of 4a-9a.

How many times has Hope Hicks blown Dotard?

And how many times has she eaten out Ivanka?

But Biden is only an old white guy because he isn't extreme left like Bernie. It is amazing how race and age are not a factor if your name is not Bernie.

I'd support Bernie if he is our nominee but he won't be.

^^^ I meant is Bernie

I find it intersting that some people make a big deal about Biden lying when he doesn't come even close to Trump's gazillion lies. Someone should throw it in their stupid faces that Trump set a new standard not just for Republicans but for Dems as well.

Republicans dont care. Their whataboutisms are mindblowing.

And their hypocrisy.

Rethugs could literally give two shits about their two faces.

Also, wanted to say that back in 2016, I knew the election was going to be rigged the minute they started asking Hillary if she would accept the results as is.

I knew it was a trap and I knew it was going to bite everyone in the ass when she said she would.

^I felt the same way. When that was brought up about accepting the results I got a sick feeling.

And the thing was that there was no answer but the one she gave. Anything else would have been used against her.

Does Comey still feel mildly sick?

I dont agree that it was the only answer she could give.

Didn't Drumpf respond, "we'll see," when asked the same thing?

Comey is still a piece of shit who will never take responsibility for anything he did.

Completely different. As we've seen, Dotard can get away with doing anything. He was right about that.

No one is scrutinized more or has everything twisted and held against them as HRC did.

I will say that I do believe if it had been anyone else Drumpf was stalking on stage people would have taken issue with it.

But because it was Hillary, no one cared.

JFC Kush gets creepier and creepier looking as the days go on.

Wasnt that asshole Stone supposed to have to stay off social media?

You're surprised that a rethug doesnt follow orders or the law?

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